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Idk though, I’ve just gotten so used to FL studio for making hardcore
Not sure if Ableton will handle it the same way… Guess I’m just going to have to learn how it works first.

“Yo man sick tracks what do you use to make them?”
“Ableton and FL studio.”
“Damnnn how much did that cost?”


:laughing:

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Not really the same way, technically, but that’s a good thing. FL is missing a lot under the hood that most other DAWs have (something I’ll harp about forever, probably), so you’ll likely gain a lot of new abilities with Live.

FL is wonderful for sketches though, so I don’t think you’ll abandon it entirely. You just might find yourself using it as a songwriting tool and importing to Live once you want a slicker workflow and better routing. It’s never a bad idea to have both in your pocket, IMO

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I agree. I wish I could wrap my mind around Live, but I’m in too deep with FL to leave it now. I know I can fix it if I can just help it a little more…

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I’ve got to say that Reaper is a pretty interesting one to jump to, especially since you can kind of build up a workflow that closely mimics FL in terms of automation, recording and a whole bunch of other shit (except for that weird rubber-banding it does with clips and automation – I don’t think anybody aside from diehard FL Studio users want that).

The downside? The time investment could leave you doing ‘just one more workflow’ tweak instead of making music, so that can end up becoming a bit of a rabbit hole all on its own. Still a worthy investment, especially since they don’t really enforce paying for it, and it’s only $60 if you ever decide to.

I’ve been using it on and off for a while, and It’s really good, certainly handles the audio a lot better than FL does. The things that are taking a while to get used to are the plugin layout (session view and arrangement view rather than the mixer :moai:), and the way that automation works (like Garageband does it… I never thought I’d be referencing GB ever again.)
Overall it just feels like a MUCH more polished DAW. (Also it comes with soooo many native plugins :drooling_face:)
I certainly do use FL studio still, for making kicks, mostly. (I’ve yet to try and make a kick in Ableton, because I use stock FL plugins…)
Overall I think that a beginner should start with FL studio, it’s more friendly to people starting with music production. Ableton is better for people who know all of the jargon and just… How music works, I suppose.

I agree. I wish I could wrap my mind around Live, but I’m in too deep with FL to leave it now. I know I can fix it if I can just help it a little more…

That’s what I thought when I downloaded 12 Suite, but watching other people use it to make amazing music motivated me to learn both of them.

On reaper. No.
Not having a go at you or anything, but I already have access to 3-4 DAWs and just don’t need another one :smile:

I’m kind of glad I found it way later on, because I’ve seen it sort of distort the way some people view things or expect other DAWs to behave. A lot of people think that Renoise is the ‘DAW from another planet’ in that it fucks with the natural flow of making music, but I’d wager that it’s actually FL – truly unique, but sometimes so ‘out there’ that you end up having to erase strange constructs just to use a normal daw.

The cool thing is, if you can just use Live for basic tasks, it pretty much opens up all of the other traditional DAWs, more or less. It’s no longer wrestling with weird bullshit, and they all kind of emulate one another from there on out.

But I’d give a few nuts for FL’s piano roll and patcher as plugins. That’ll be the day :smiley:

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The way that FL’s plugins behave is so nice… (Okay, I’ve never touched half of them, but the ones I do use are very smooth.)
If you’re geeky enough, you might be able to haxxor and export some of them as VSTs to use in other DAWs, as well.

Honestly the best way to do that is to port them over to another platform, because that sauce file will probably never crop up anywhere. Some people have done that (especially with DAWs that allow scripting), but re-implementing the chord generator, scripting interface and all of that shit sounds incredibly difficult. But I’d love to be talented enough one day to try it :smiley:

I’d love to just be able to automate some chord generator permutations, save them to MIDI files and be on my merry way. They need a CLI utility or something for lazier nerds :rofl:

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Sauce file :tomato: :laughing:

Oh yeah, the way FL handles MIDI is great, I’ve never been annoyed with it for any reason. Somebody should just make an open source DAW with all of the features of other DAWs in one.

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That’s sort of what I meant when I mentioned Reaper since people are always creating new tools for it, but pretty much all of the DAWs that allow for really deep scripting end up with a lot of crazy add-ons. Even Renosie has a go-to piano roll, believe it or not.

I do like FL’s version of scripting, though. It’s all surface-level but you can still use basic algorithms to achieve things, and that part is kind of unique. I think even Edison lets you do crazier shit on the DSP end but I haven’t looked far enough into it yet.

I’m still waiting on a patcher ‘duplicate’ tool. Some of their ‘missing parts’ really blow my mind (MIDI channels, to name another one)

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Mate, the aussie government is stupid for sure. But we’ve got it easy compared to the US right now. my god what a trainwreck

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trumpwreck

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Politicsexual

Extreme libtards and conservitards that get off regularly from any kind of political news and from debating politics on the internet like an asshole.

I think a better title is just “fuckwit” or “dumbass”
(This is NOT a discriminatory joke.)

The only things I actually enjoy about the news is the comics that they STILL do in newspapers.

Most of them, at least.

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Anyone going to Bangface this year? My wife and I shall be going this year. Super Pumped! Hope to see some of yall out there!

When someone walks into bathroom, saying they are about to blow this shit up, and someone calls the police stating that this person had issued a bomb threat.

@bfk

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Brolatte

It’s actually nutty.