Political raps that have no purpose other than to be political.
Stuff like this: ht tps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5kGpohEpuTE
(And the guy who made this song hates rap so much, he makes it his only personality trait, and he always brags about how he has no emotions or empathy. I’m not even that political and I still don’t like him at all.)
And these cringy raps sound like he’s trying too hard to appeal to the kids. Next thing you’ll know he’ll say “Skibid rizz fanum tax YOLO #swag!!”
Some guy was blasting these kinda raps when I was on the train one time, and they were so cringy and corny.
Actually, @KvlT, this is a record I really like a lot. I hated it the first time I was exposed to it, though — just hated it! I thought it was stupid and that the sound was unbearable. However, I was drawn back to it later after reading an interview with John French the drummer in The Magic Band. In fact, eventually I came to like it so much that I bought the box set (CDs) “Grow Fins”, which includes the tracks from Trout Mask Replica as instrumental/no vocal mixes. That said, I can appreciate that peeps don’t like it!
Also, this record was made in 1969.
Here is an interesting discussion about one of the tracks – “Frownland”, if anyone is interested.
N_j0y!
That is so cool! That has kind of been my take on it, too; my dad reintroduced me to it a few months ago because he couldn’t find it anywhere and we’ve been kind of dissecting it slowly ever since. There’s certainly a lot more to unpack than you’d imagine on fist listen, and I’ve been growing to like it more and more ever since I gave it another listen.
Also if you know of anything else along those lines with a very much acquired taste required, I’d love to check out anything you recommend!
Frownland is my favorite track from one of my favorite albums. Like my parents remembering where they were when humans landed on the moon, I remember the exact place I was the first time I heard it and how confused and excited it made (and still makes) me. TMR is one of those things I just keep going back to for inspiration. It’s truly an unrecognized gem of underground music.
I’m super interested to hear what @carlos_pG suggests - anyone down with Beefheart is okay in my book
Here’s some artists off the top of my head that I think take a lot of work to really appreciate: Jandek, Scott Walker, Jute Gyte (specifically his ‘middle period’ microtonal stuff), Negativland, The Shaggs, Nurse With Wound.
Stapleton (like Tibet with Current 93) created quite a few classics. I gave up following their output in the late 90’s, there was just too much stuff coming out, and not necessarily on the same level as previous releases. I can’t really discuss what came from the 00’s on.
Yeah, I really dig the earlier content from both Current 93 and NWW. Neofolk isn’t so much my bag and I definitely prefer the earlier experimental albums, though I think there’s interesting bits in most of what they release. Also agree that it seemed like both were almost too prolific in the 90s and I too stopped trying to keep up. But Homotopy to Marie all the way through Thunder Perfect Mind (both the Current 93 and NWW releases) are incredible examples of experimental audio. Homotopy in particular has such surprising ‘jump scare’ moments and transitions that they still catch me off guard and fascinate me.
What I really enjoy about all this stuff is it moves from the more common question in modern experimental electronic of “how did they do that?” to “what kind of mind would put this together?”, which, for me, is a much more interesting thing.
To this day I cannot not laugh at this one particular line from the Thunder Perfect Mind album: “In the heart of the woods, Christ appeared to me” and the way Tibet delivers it in proper “I’m so high I can’t even conceal it from my singing” fashion he’s informally trademarked.
And yes, agree, the Industrial Neofolk trend was never my scene, for some obvious non-musical reasons, but also because so many people in that scene couldn’t sing to save their lives. I’m looking at Tony Wakeford (Sol Invictus), whom I got to see live and it was absolutely dreadful. Even worse than his albums… A friend of mine was a fan, and he also loved LPD and DIJ. I used to make fun of him saying he wouldn’t listen to any band that has a singer capable of singing in tune.
I’m gonna be real here gang I’m really picky about metal and just don’t like it that much
I’m more of an emo/indie fan so It’s just a little bit too messy for my taste. Which is also weird to say because I love hardcore techno and speedcore.