The Philosophy Thread (reminder: philosophy is not politics, religion, nor conspiracy theories)

If you play dumb, people will set out to prove you wrong. If you claim to know something, people will set out to prove you wrong. There’s literally no way to defeat the ego, and I’ve tried over and over again :smiley:

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When presented with an issue, do people really consider anything but the cause and effect?
A building collapses, people get hurt.
Cause: poorly built
Effect: people get hurt
And then they try to reverse the effect if it’s “bad”
But what makes the effect good or bad, and why do we even bother sometimes, is there other layers that we don’t realise?

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Step out of your own comfort zone and hustle…dont disappoint the people that are willing to help you,

Also sometimes you gotta demonstrate your character to others…through personal actions and conduct.

Some thoughts…

Reality isnt a hologram or a computational simulation…

When humanity evolves to a higher consciousnes…if we do…big if…then our limited perception will change by possibly expanding what we can percieve as reality…

As of now even though what we know as reality stems from photons and electromagnetism, gravity, strong and weak nuclear forces…and quantum fuckery all interacting with each other…it is because of our limits that our understanding is very limited…obviously.

As for what is the true reality…in religion more specifically hinduism there is brahman the source of all existence…and every being in existence is a minute aspect/form/variance of brahman. So basically subatomically everything is protons neutrons and electrons…even smaller than that is the thing that composes all the things that make up the protons neutrons electrons photons gravity…etc…

As for reincarnation and samsara…the reincarnation and samsara is partially scientific because it almost resembles the energy cycle of an ecosystem with the various plants and animals carrying out there own unique specific functions of which contribute to the ecosystem maintaining homeostasis…with life and death being necessary for homeostasis of the ecosystem to be possible. But reincarnation and samsara differ from the science because those ideas are centered around the human experience. With peoples karma and how well they follow their dharma which influences their own karma as well as what caste they are born or reborn into.

But as for the reality in order to truly understand the real nature of things we can only cross reference so many different ideas…and hash out the absurdist esoteric musings and seperate those from the objective truth…

But since that we now have the social media internet…of which we could of used as a real world akashic record but instead we use it for meaningless bullshit like engaging in fuckery and brainrot.

Sorry tangent…

But what is the reality…drop as much lsd as you want or smoke a bunch of peyote or whatever would using chemicals temporarily enhance your consciousness or alter it…a 6 cylinder car engine can only do so much…but if you put a jet engine to do car stuff…the car nor the driver would survive driving…and for it to be even feasible the car would have to be heavily modified to operate a jet engine…

Engine = brain…

Even though a car engine isnt a brain but yeah…

The proposed excuse…


Whatever

The theory of quantum consciousness has nothing to do with sociology…

Sociology is the study of human society in a scientific sense…and how we tend to organize ourselves into various social structures…but i feel like sociology is a bit of bullshit…depending upon how rittled it is with political opinionated bias.

Sociology asks questions and reexamines the answers that human societies past and present have provided…

But in terms of sociology my pure conjecture is that we are animals and we are still subject to energy cycle of nature that maintains the homeostasis of an ecosystem…

Maybe each civilization/society throughout history and even in the present is actually a sort of created ecosystem for humans by humans to survive the environment and coexist…with each other…

Blah…obviously.

As for the theoretical science yet to be proven as the nature of reality…we will see…

but in the meantime um maybe we should all take to heart the care bear stare in an effort to not disappoint our ancestors nor fuck up things so bad for our descendants.

I see the obvious appeal of this idea, but I’m not so sure it’s true. It’s not a given that on the largest scales the universe is a repeating cycle of collapse, big bang, expansion, contraction, etc. In fact, our best math right now suggests that is not the case, that the universe will just keep expanding until all particles are so far from each other that nothing can interact with anything else on even the smallest levels.

If the largest scales of the universe are all inexorably moving towards one inevitable future, then I think you can argue the same is true elsewhere. There are definitely repeating cycles in nature, but with subtle changes every time that always move toward that future of distant, quiet noise. Like, if you created the same situations today as existed 65 million years ago and left evolution to its devices, you aren’t going to just get dinosaurs again - even with conditions on earth the same, the conditions from the sun and other parts of the universe would be different.

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Humans arent the only animals that have societies…

Ants and bees have them as well…

Octopuses also have some capability

Crows have a justice system. They get a day in court and are punished by the other crows if found guilty of crow crimes.

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The bullshit…

Cultural artificial propaganda pushed on us to make us think certain things…we programmed ourselves to think about constructs like money specific gender roles social hierarchies…etc.

instead of our purpose having some societal function…some people are more focused on the status and hierarchy part and bsing to cultivate image as opposed to actually doing stuff.

The problem

Is everyone, no jk…crywank yourself into delusions of granduer and dont be surprised no one really cares…consumerism isnt sustainable…gotta balancing it out by producing or providing a service based on a skillset…i said it before…in order to make a living learn a trade and get compensated fairly for your work…or go into politics and make money through insider trading and by exercising your privilege over others using your cronies lol…

After learning a trade invest in assets to grow economically…gotta be self reliant and self sufficient…but equality…this has nothing to do equality and more with how competent and disciplined an individual is in reaching their own goals.

Blah.


Stop making excuses…

But hypergamy, privilege, unfair discrimination bias, addictive personality, etc…take responsibility for your actions, work to overcome self imposed obstacles, and stop with the self limiting beliefs of powerlessness over yourself…just gotta work at something enough to get good…hard work beats talent everytime…


Fucked up part

People meander through life cushy and protected reveling in mediocrity because they get taken care…you dont want this…because the result of being taken care of is that you cant do anything for yourself.

And when you dont get taken care of you wind up unable to self sustain because you have no skills to do anything…therefore you do stuff like winding up protesting as an advocate for universal basic income or prostituting yourself on social media. Dont be surprised nor angry, if things dont work out, especially if you have no skills. Dont expect people to spoil you just because they like you. No one owes you anything.

Or you could go about being a bs artist not doing anything productive except being popular and reveling in bullshit. But living like this is a complete facade. And when push comes to shove it all will come down like a house of cards.

Or you dont compromise nor settle…everything will be harder to achieve, people will even discourage you from your goals or even go out of their way to sabotage you because they are jealous that you dont limit yourself like they do to themselves…its not easy…no one ever said life is easy..

Or you play the game, playing the game means navigating various obstacles and situations…but its not a video game…the fact that reality is defined as a game speaks to peoples ignorance…the only score you get is survival. And play games long enough with people and theyll eventually start playing you…dont be surprised because thats what you have chosen.


The way…

Figure it out. You have a brain, so use it…

Not everything is going to be on your own terms…and that doesnt always equate to some sort of oppression or subservience.


Royalty

Another construct to stroke peoples egos…fuck off…


Leadership

Completely different…you are the one that has the most responsibility…how well do you handle it all?

People want to be leaders for the wrong reasons they want the power and the status but dont want the responsibilities that comes with it.

Not everyone is an effective leader…at least when they first try…


My own experience has been defined by one question..

“If you cant do anything than what good are you?”

Something to contemplate…

Also keep trying…

Tldr

Self help splooge.

Relationships

Greek myth of echo and narcissus…

How vanity is self destructive

How lacking a sense of self is also self destructive.

Personal substance = authenticity.

When your own self image is congruent with others perception of yourself.

Not caring what people think is a double edged sword…gotta find the right balance of whose perception you give weight to in congruence to your own.

As for being authentic, peoples identities are formed through their experiences and how they conduct themselves in daily life. A persons culture is the foundation of their identity…and everything else can be considered as building material…

Personal substance is often self determined and is defined through personal conduct, which determines authenticity.

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That’s a really good way of putting this idea!

It rings very similar to the idea that happiness is the congruence between your expectations (desires) and your reality. Not sure how true that idea is, but it’s something that has carried weight for a while.

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I’ve enjoyed withholding a lot lately.. my whole life right now is filtering and withholding my thoughts or opinions because as most know me, there are not many thoughts of mine that go unsaid lol. this place is one of the least filtered places I express my opinion anymore. if not the only one. everywhere else I’m just like…wtf am I even doing, log out and go do something else. fuck social media conversations what is this 2010. unless it’s funny… I guess. I go for brevity if just HAVE to express my brilliant opinion. but yo I don’t think I’m that smart honestly, just really sarcastic and critical of everything. i annoy myself sometimes. but yeah i’m basically practicing non-sexy kama sutra with my opinions.

everytime I get fired up and want to write a dissertation argument against someone on the internet I usually stop halfway through and think… is this helping me or them? do they deserve my time? is this opinion valid to me? highlight/save to personal notes/journal, exit tab without hitting post and I have found that I have been saving a lot of tin89354amd Idlgghffgnbkjldngoerb;$#TW$TRS"HSFKDU%JYougneorujgnfdjbndfohnfdjovbnfdgmndfb

I’m literally doing it right now :psybermoji:

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That’s okay, this is a safe space for you to talk about all of your fidelosiphies; where people want to listen to your mad ramblings :slight_smile:

Jokes aside, not getting all fired up about what some hobo on the internet said is a great skill to have, I think. And you’re right, there’s no point for either side. But if you choose never to speak your mind sometimes, you become fickle.

Now, this is just me, but I feel like being direct to people is the best way to go about life. Sure, you might not be able to have that sort of wishy-washy kindness, but if somebody you care about gets hurt by the directness you can still use logical thinking and bluntness to make them feel better.

In your case, I would tell the person how I feel in only a sentence or two. Sometimes people need to realise the facts, not just the opinions and/or societal expectations.

TLDR: them Vulcans were onto something…

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Oh yeah I’m all about being direct. sometimes because of the reaction that gets, because most people hate being called out, I tend to stop myself in the middle wondering if it was all worth it, and what am I really changing.

Fidelosophy….i like this new word…

Fid can give this new word a definition.

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I’m more of an inFidel

Fidelientalism

High fidelity

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They see me playin my fidel, they hatin

Fidelocity

Fidel force = the force of sound on the human brain

Fidelium the chosen one

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Commercialism prostitutes social revolution…

Ideas of modern masculinity and femininity and cultural ethnic heritage as expressed by sponsored content creators on social media are actually marketing ploys to politically and commercially exploit people.

Just for the love of control and money.

Truth is that such things are ethically self determined.