Octatrack again!


#1

Hi all !!! i know what i’m going to write is gonna freak the hell out of some elektron’s gear fans.
I don’t want any debate on who sounds the best, just a discussion about the OT only.
I’ve been a long time (10 years) fan of elektron’s gear. I started with the Machinedrum, then the monomachine & few years ago, the octatrack. The best sounding machine was the machinedrum, to my ears anyway. I was looking for a sampler so, 1st tried an Mpc 1000, i just couldn’t go with the workflow of this japanese box ( but the sound was clear, crisp, punchy ). So i decided to get an octatrack. & since then, my love for elektron machine is gone.
Despite the fact that the sequencing capabilities are amazing, the crossfader scene action is killer, the p-locks, the sample locks, the 4 part switch, a must in live, etc etc i just find the overall sound of this machine so blurry.
I have tried to work every samples with no inboard process, just the dry samples going out of the OT, even that, the sound is muddy !!
44Khz 24bits, samples 1st worked in protools, 6 to 12db of headroom, no compression, no limiter.
Transferred the samples in the OT. No timestretch, no pitch shift, i just go on a simple dry playback of my samples.
I use both Main & Cue out : Main for drums & basses, Cue for Synth & others mids highs.
I use track 8 in normal mode, no master FX.
I also tried the spatialiser effect to work the M/S settings of each sample.
& i finally tried to use 2 same mono loops, both panned left right to work the stereo field. No success, a huge phase issue occurs.
Nothing work, nothing ever did.
Who guys, felt the same about this fantastic machine ?
I keep my OT for its sequencing capabilities but i feel so frustrated about this sound issue on my unit.
Tomorrow, i’ll post some samples of the OT so you can hear what i’m talking about.
I’ll post 2 bounce of an 8 tracks summed project. 1 from Protools or Live & the other from the OT so you can A-B.
Thanks for those of you who could read my crap english 'till the end, for those who’ll try to help & for the others holding themselves from bashing me for such an inquiry.
Peace.


#2

I used to own an Octatrack and sold as the workflow, but I never felt anything off about the sound. But it’s really individual taste, I for example didn’t like the sound of the Analog Rytm.


#3

Allright, i see the problem could come from the converters of my unit maybe ??
As for me, the sound is blurry, muffled, 5 tracks & the summing of the OT shows its weakness.
I’ll keep trying settings to improve the sound … i’ll see.


#4

Hardware samplers have always coloured the sound. Some more than others, but nonetheless. Seen in this light, it would be more surprising for the Octatrack to sound completely neutral, than it is for it to sound recognisably like an Octatrack.

In fact, I think the designers probably chose to make it “non-neutral”, in order to “give it character”.

Neutral instruments are often boring. A Stradivarius violin is not a neutral sounding instrument.

Personally I don’t like the sound of the Octatrack either, but, at the same time, I like some of the older hardware samplers, despite them sounding pretty messed up at extreme settings (in some cases because of that).

When/if you post your bounced examples - I suggest you give them anonymous file-names (like at a “blind wine tasting”), - so our prejudices don’t get the better of us.


#5

Great idea


#6

great idea, i didn’t think of that blind A-B.
in process right now.


#7

Hmmmm, i couldn’t hold myself so i have sold my octatrack & the mpc x is on the way. I had enough of the OT.