Guys why you don't popular?

[bfk]

50 cent got popular because he knew what he was selling…and how to sell it…

Also he would encourage people to bootleg or pirate his music

And look at him now…hes a mogul…

Not saying to copy 50 cent…but there are takeaway lessons to be learned.

[relic]

@morphic I believe it might just be RFJ and I at this point, just two admins. I will let him know about the suggestion.

[morphic]

bfk, RFJ… close enough

[relic]

bfk, RFJ… close enough

lol three initial bastards, can’t keep 'em all straight

[morphic]

Music marketing in the time ive posted here…has been discussed in various threads…over the years…

Some will say doing such is selling out…
Others will say its better to get authentic listens and fans by networking
Others say that stuff like this is shitting on music as an art and as a business
Those are a summary of the some of the sentiments ive read in the past…

See that’s the thing - my idea is to discuss marketing not based on feelings but on data - what works, what doesn’t, why, etc., backed up with cold facts. I’ve been working in market research for 20+ years (urgghh) so I’m used to look at data.

[morphic]

@relic - Thanks, man. I do believe that everybody could benefit from this. I’ll do my thread and if you decide to make a section for marketing discussion, then it can always be moved there

[relic]

Yea. For sure. Honestly, at this point I’m open to try whatever with the forum.

[RFJ]

@morphic

Yeah, I’m open to marketing category. Wondering if it would be best to have it as it’s own section or as a sub category within either The Studio or Music Scene? For reference, the sub catagory would be similar to how the Beat Battles category is housed within Community Projects. Let me know what you think and I’ll make it so.

[relic]

The way I interact with the forum, the navigation feels non-linear, but I like the sub category idea. I like that feature as we can still keep the home page tidy.

[morphic]

Wondering if it would be best to have it as it’s own section or as a sub category within either The Studio or Music Scene?

I would prefer its own section, for visibility and getting people to interact with it more easily. For example, it took me longer than it should have been to find the Beat Battle category, as opposed to the thread of the same name, which was lost in the middle of other threads.

…and then I discovered that you can order threads by “Category”.

[relic]

Honestly at this point maybe it is better to have it our front in case new people stumble by and find us.

[RFJ]

New section of the forum is up.

I used some of the verbiage supplied by @morphic when writing the description of the category -

About the Music Marketing category

This is the place to discuss music related marketing. The marketing of YouTube Channels, Social Media Strategies, Bandcamp Releases, general attention gathering (in person or on line), what works, what doesn’t, why, etc., is the intention of this section of the forum. It’s important to note - Please have the focus your discussions be fact based & data driven as opposed to being evidenced by feelings.

Any further suggestions you guys have can be posted here for consideration. I would move this discussion to the marketing section but being as this thread is all about feelings I think I’ll just leave it here.

[morphic]

Awesome, thanks! I’ll do my ArtistPR thread this week when I’m less fried. Work is a bitch right now.

[relic]

@RFJ “this thread is all about feelings” lol

We definitely need a group therapy feelings section.

[White_Noise]

We definitely need a group therapy feelings section.

IDMf = I dig my feelings… forum

Seriously, I bet if you make this one change the forum membership goes up 800% in a week. Unfortunately, only ambient meditation music is now allowed. I am in a few ambient FB groups (IDK how I even got invited, perhaps they meditate to my music sometimes?) so I would make the transition OK, but all you beat freaks would have a rough time.

[relic]

We definitely need a group therapy feelings section.

IDMf = I dig my feelings… forum

Seriously, I bet if you make this one change the forum membership goes up 800% in a week. Unfortunately, only ambient meditation music is now allowed. I am in a few ambient FB groups (IDK how I even got invited, perhaps they meditate to my music sometimes?) so I would make the transition OK, but all you beat freaks would have a rough time.

Lol. I am belly laughing over here!

[morphic]

I Doubt Myself forum

The 1st forum ever where absolutely anybody who’s not a total self-important prick can relate

[AndrewWinds]

My stuff just isn’t good enough, I’ll basically have to be a genuine master before I think my stuff can even begin to hold a candle to the best artists, then maybe I’ll promote my stuff.