Beat Battle Discussion


#27

hey guys, just making sure you see this so that your not blindsided so please come and chime in with your opinions


#28

So I thought I had quite a few you were missing, but that was based on the list above and not the actual archive. anywho, I have 54, which is not yet in the archive. Shall I Gdrive it and share a link?


#29

awesome! thanks!


#30

Dahhh yes sir! I will happily add it to the archive.


#31

Alright, so I made a reply to bfk’s thing:

But I kinda wanted to bring the discussion on sample sourcing and making sure things aren’t copyrighted over here. Basically, to get a release, we need to make sure samples aren’t copyrighted. Officially, they’re not supposed to be, but I suspect that likely there has been copyrighted material that has slipped in in the past.

I see a couple of solutions to this problem:

  1. Quality checking/review of sample packs before release
  2. Obtaining licensing to sample libraries
  3. We could also add some disclaimer on every beat battle stating that samples must be copyright free, and that by offering a battle pack you certify the samples are sourced from fair-use sources and/or originally recorded.

What are your guys’/gals’(?) thoughts?


#32

I’ve always made a point to record my own samples or use samples free to use for whatever purpose. I think we can all trust each other not to use copyright material, but a disclaimer could help drill that in for members that only pop by every now and then.


#33

A disclaimer/ammendment to the rules about using creative commons or whatever the legal term is for being able to use and modify samples for free, would probably be best…


#34

i agree with this.
the copy ‘n’ paste part of the rules could include something that pins the blame on the sample provider if they provide protected content, and could make it clear that by uploading their own content they give permission for the sounds to be used royalty free. that would make people make extra sure that they know their samples are royalty free.
a simple block of text is usually all you need to cover your ass with this kind of thing.


#35

Definitely, we need something like this. I realized that when i was making the latest battle, and I was like, “what needs to go in here?”, that is, just some sort of pre-written list of rules and guidelines that can be used by hosts when they’re making the battles.

Our countdown clock site seems to have gone away too, I suppose we’ll just paste time info and deadlines and all stuff for now.


#36

Imo we should ammend the overall BB rules as soon as possible with the “only using free samples that permits people to modify and distribute however a person sees fit” or whatever legalese needed and maybe put the rules/legalese in a stickied thread in the bb section of the forum (something that all bb participants can see) and start archiving the winning tracks for each bb after the legalese ammendment, as for the previous bb winners pre-idmf reincarnation it’ll be really hard to track down and find said tracks and it’s likely the tracks in question have been deleted, it just would be easier to start from scratch… for the best of the beat battles release

also did a thingy concerning the general rules

is that ok? also anyone wanna help drafting up a legal statement/disclaimer that covers;

also point out if i’m missing something that needs to be covered


#37

Also after the holidays I’ll start synthesizing myself some samples and make a pack for everyone that can be used for some of the future beat battlea I’ll post it the sample archive thread sometime in January and

***** by sharing my sample pack i xvf thereby give my consent to freely use the samples I provided for the purposes of making and distributing music and acknowledge that all of my samples that I’ve uploaded are made by me and that I solely am responsible for the samples that I’ve provided in only my sample pack

Xvf *****


#38

The term you are looking for is creative commons zero.
https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Im sure there are other countdown widgets we could use :slight_smile:


#39

Essentially the point is that either they are not under any copyright, or if they are, they are under a copyright that we can legally use them under.


#40

Here’s the links I had dug up for the Beat Battles tracks before the old site went down.
Some of them have gone missing since I recorded them. Note, not all of these were actually winning tracks, as a lot of the older battle winning tracks were no longer linked properly, so in those cases I went for a track I simply liked (we were hoping to use these as a Beat Battle best of release of some sort). As is, the more recent battles are more likely actual winning tracks, but older ones may be a toss up. They all are, however, legitimate entries.

https://tinyurl.com/y75kgct8


Why aren't there more releases?
#41

Hey so, before the site crashed we were talking about doing something special for BB100, which is kinda sorta soon-ish somewhat, with a potential small prize or something for the winner, up to even having a larger battle with an extended deadline to make some serious tracks.

I’m open to whatever, doing something, I like the idea of it, even if it’s just a small pocket synth operator or something to the winner (of course, we’d need to find some people to pitch for it, I’d be willing to throw in for a small prize).

What say ye?


#42

Sounds like a great idea to me. I wish i could chip in :frowning:
The idea is great though, even though i likely will not find time to get involved


#43

VIVA LA BEAT BATTLE! So confused right now… had to make a new accunt and everything. So shiny I am… SQUIRREL! Yeah… what happened? I missed alot…


#44

The server on which the old site was on went kaput, and there was no backup in place.

They set up this site, which is now IDMf v2.0, starting completely from scratch.


#45

So…I finally crawled back out from under my rock…I uploaded the samples here:
BB54 Stems
They are 100% Creepr-made and therefore no copyright problems. Anyone and everyone who wants to use them for BBs or personal projects, go right ahead.


#46

Sweet! I’ll post them in the archive.