Yep this is what’s happening 
Correction: the idea of SOCIETY.
I really truly believe that if people just put in a little effort to not express their emotions about “xyz group” the world would be SO much nicer to live in. Really, nobody should give a shit what minority you’re part of, let them do their things. If it physically harms you or causes major problems then tell them about it - and honesty is the best policy…
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Oh, I heard of this. I get they want kids to be safe, but they’re doing it all wrong. This is gonna make kids want to watch graphic adult content in order to not get their channels taken down. And also, there are p0rn videos, graphic and disturbing videos, and even racist videos marketed to children that YouTube thinks are completely kid friendly and will market to them. And this just shows that YouTube has these videos and also has extremely graphic and p0rn0graphic videos but they choose to not take them down while a random YouTuber isn’t allowed to say “die” and has to say “unalive” instead.
It’s really dumb how a single kids-targeted youtuber can’t say “fuck“ but then people can post asshole waxing videos with literally zero repercussions. Also, I’ve heard that in the UK people can’t even look at anything on twitter because of new laws. It’s fucking stupid.
I totally understand that the internet is 90% porn, but there are better ways to stop children from seeing it than making EVERYBODY use their IDs. I also fucking HATE the fact that google and twitter both “require” VERY PRIVATE information to show stuff like this. And tbh, if some kid is traumatized because they saw a naked goth mommy once, then they should know not to look at that stuff again, really.
Anyway, I’m just enjoying the fact I don’t need to change anything at the moment. Knock, knock. 
ID verification through a safe and private third party is the only reliable way to prevent kids from accessing that content, as well as adults who don’t want to access it. Parents can’t watch their kids all the time. They have jobs and other responsibilities. And they can’t do anything about other kids showing them that content at school or anywhere else. And when I was a kid I loved My Little Pony and couldn’t even look it up without finding sickos making p0rn of it completely uncensored. I didn’t ask to see that. Even SafeSearch doesn’t work. It shows p0rn images while censoring actually age appropriate content. If you have no problem showing your ID to purchase cigarettes, vapes and alcohol, you shouldn’t have a problem with that. Sorry if I sound rude by accident, I’m just explaining.
Problem with constant ID verification and similar is that it allows people to control you and access your private information. It doesn’t seem like a problem but there are is a looming issue of control in so-called democratic countries, and restrictions of freedom. I’m not saying I support people being horny all the time, but it’s a lot different to showing ID for alcohol.
True, but that doesn’t mean they can’t set restrictions and rules from an early age. Parenting is a responsibility that you choose. I’m certainly not going to have kids.
No, and that’s another point to make. There’s always going to be some way that they find out about it, regardless of government censorship or not.
Hm, I’m not sure. I’ve only seen about one or two cases where this actually happens. Most of the time the “safe” content isn’t really safe anyway. And besides, all a caregiver should really do is put a lock on the system to filter out anything suspicious, and if the kid has a problem then they can ask about it.
This is different, because these are drugs that can cause more than a little horniness. If somebody looks at NSFW content while underage, it’s just a bit unfortunate. If somebody underage has access to alcohol, it could practically ruin their live, maybe even kill them.
No rudeness here. 
Unless somebody purposefully insults me it’s just a friendly debate.
You don’t need to censor anything here, it’s all open.
Fuck, shit. Cunt. Dick. Penis, even. Nothing is censored.
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Sorry. I prefer to censor these things when I type except if it’s for an academic setting. However, underage p0rn access isn’t entirely harmless, and can lead to addictions, negative body image, warped ideas on relationships, it can even turn young boys into abusers. There are teens who grow up into adults choking their girlfriends because they saw it on those websites. And also, it can cause a mental disorder called hypers3xuality which can also be caused by SA. I’ve heard people with that mental disorder talk about how watching that stuff when underage got them that disorder and how painful it is to have it
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Most of the points you made are just from access to social media in the first place. I’m not saying people shouldn’t use it at all, but I think 16 is the absolute youngest anybody should have an account for something even as innocent an supportive as tumblr.
I have been sexually assaulted many-a-time just because of my sexuality and gender, and I’m not hypersexual, but rather just more relaxed about NSFW topics. In the end, sex is just something that every species with males and females does, whether tasteful or not - to me at least.
Sad to say, but in a way that’s something they bought upon themselves. They mightn’t’ve wanted to see the content in the first place, but there is no way that seeing a naked person on a screen ONCE is going to ruin anybody, they could’ve stopped looking a long time ago.
No need to apologize, just thought you didn’t know. :3
This isn’t about children. This is about money, power and control dovetailing in one more shitstorm of extracting as much as they can from the people using the services. “The children” are just a convenient selling point to increase shareholder value.
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I’m going to need some proof, you know, for research and stuff 
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Also I only skimmed for now and want to circle back later (and possibly watch that VT video), but the more places that make it hard for me to access, the less time I spend being stupid on the internet, so while I don’t always agree 100% with the hive mind’s decisions on things like this, I kind of enjoy the benefits by going and reading a fucking book instead, or working on something fun and getting as far away from the bot garbage cesspit as I possibly can.
(You guys are not part of the cesspit, this forum is one of the small islands that doesn’t feel overrun by horseshit.)
I realize this is a very selfish opinion and I feel bad for anyone who is / will become negatively affected by any of this, but at this point I kind of welcome it. Sterilize it to the point where I don’t even find it useful anymore and I’ll just avoid it altogether. Television 2.0, coming soon!
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I get you in the deepest possible way. I got a lot of real feels about this stuff and it’s nuanced and complex and maybe I agree that on the whole it makes the world worse because people are too stupid to filter their viewing habits and we’ve become dumbed down into rote consumption machines.
Look, I haven’t owned a TV in 27 years. I don’t think I’ve sat all the way through a movie in 20. I don’t play video games or sports. I read fiction for about a hour before I go to bed (and I mean I actually read, not listen to someone reading to me). The rest of my time is spent doing things, learning things, reading the stuff I need to do those things, and occasionally posting on here. I value being productive and the internet is so often the opposite of that. I have to actively resist every single day falling down a rabbit hole of unproductive web surfing, and that’s hard work I wish I didn’t have to do.
But - and here’s the real cheese - sometimes I just need to know HOW TO GET THE GODDAMN SIDEPANEL OFF A 2002 CHEVY SILVERADO WITHOUT BREAKING ALL THE FUCKING PLASTIC CLIPS and youtube can do that for me in about 3 minutes (1min if you skip the intro). That’s valuable to me. And I’d posit that all the collected knowledge of the last 20 years of people posting things they know about is valuable to society as a whole if you can sift through the garbage to find it.
It’s a shame we have to choose between having the world’s knowledge at our fingertips (like, what the internet was initially about) and being the product for forces beyond our control that don’t give a shit about our best interests.
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Reading these points make the free open source internet access activist people look like fools…because of what the collective of humanity has done with the tool that is the internet.
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I don’t think there’s really a right or wrong way to look at it. The downside of being as neutral as I am is that there’s probably more at stake than I even realize, yet I’ll still be one of the first to bend over and take it. I’m already demoing restricted mode and I’ve got no plans of turning it off . It’s also hilarious that the moment I did it, I lost access to that VT video. Fucking hilarious if you’d ask me. I’m pretty sure he intentionally censored everything, but I guess humor won’t be allowed here.
I do this constantly when I’m taking pretty much anything apart (and likely more than I realize), but I’d really like to experiment with more failure and uncertainty anyway, even if that means breaking a few things or really messing something up. Maybe it’s just because I’m weird, but taking the long way around, even if it takes some time and goes on in the background while real life plays out almost sounds more appealing now than ever before.
Impractical? Yes. Borderline retarded? Yes. But maybe fun?
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I do agree because in the UK they’re censoring proof of war crimes such as Israel’s war crimes (please don’t fight when I say this)
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Being an asshole, violent abuser and blaming whatever violent porn you’ve been seeking as the reason why you do it simply confirms you are an asshole, violent abuser. You would only have found other ways to materialize it if you hadn’t happened on something you subconsciously liked, wanted to find, and, most importantly: KEPT LOOKING FOR.
When I was a kid, almost all my heroes were heroin junkies. Younger folks may not know that - it was considered cool in the 80’s. Top of my head, those were: Andy McCoy (Hanoi Rocks), Johnny Thunders (NY Dolls, Heartbreakers), Nivek Ogre (Skinny Puppy), Blixa Bargeld (Einstuerzende Neubauten), Nick Cave, etc. etc.
NGL I do like and have tried certain substances later in life. Did I ever try heroin? Nope. Because I knew deep down that it was a fucked up rabbit hole to go down to, that my actions would bring immense pain to my family, friends and strangers, ultimately most certainly leading me to an early death. If I had tried heroin and gone down the junkie drain, the reason would have been that I willfully went against reason, ignored all of that for my own pleasure-seeking only. Then I could have hidden behind the glamorization of heroin to play the victim.
We live in an age when kids are not taught responsibility anymore. in the US, generations have been growing up with the “it’s not my fault, [insert whatever] made me do it” justification. End result: raging entitled assholes everywhere taking over the country.
When people TEACH THEIR KIDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, we shall finally see progress.
To the young male crowd who needs basic education, I would say:
“If you feel inclined to choke a woman because it makes you feel manly or whatever, ask to be choked the exact same way, see how you like it. Or stick a banana as far down your throat as you can until you gag, see how you like it. Above all, try to put in your tiny brain that a woman is a human being just like you, not a piece of meat for your own selfish pleasure.”
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Exactly. Proverbial “nail on the head” here.
That’s why I’ve always laughed at Anarchists.
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The exact main point I’m trying to make, with some extra points on privacy etc.
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I’m confused. Do you feel that other substances don’t the same / similar things, or have you just never had an addiction that caused other people a lot of grief, even when you genuinely didn’t want that for anyone? I think you might have more self-restraint than a lot of us.
I’m not sure if addiction is that cut-and-dry, honestly. When you grow up around pretty much everyone doing substance X, it almost becomes a natural inclination to try it yourself, and the longer you’ve been at it, the harder it is to stop. Obviously this does still fall on us as individuals, whether we like it or not, and nobody is there ‘making’ us do anything, but I do think leaving out a lot of the nuances about addiction doesn’t do us any good, either. I don’t want to deal with junkies myself, but if I think about how many people are addicted to certain things, it’s kind of hard not to tear up a little and wonder just how in the hell we even got here in the first place.
With that said, I’d be happy if drugs and harmful shit could just be eradicated to the point where it’s not even an option, but gatekeeping that is obviously a slippery slope. Maybe we’re at the point where some kind of authoritative shit actually makes sense, as much as I hate to say it.
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