@Creepr I will check that out for you to be certain but I don’t think so. I’ll have to listen carefully. Because of my current routing I’ve been keeping it right at 75-100% on the master volume.
I only use TS for my hardware, and then TRS from the mixer to the recorder ( although I’m currently running a pair of nice guitar cables). Sometimes it can be the cable itself for some reason, so maybe try a different brand if you have one handy. If a have a loudness issue, it’s usually the MS20 mini, so I always have that going into the mixer on a channel with a pre amp. That way I can give it a little boost if needed.
@Creepr holy shit! mine is the same! Right at 50% I can just barely hear it in my headphones. I never noticed it before. I even tried turning the oscs all the way up and opening the filter all the way up, doesn’t change anything really.
@Creeper @Relic, i may be able to enlighten you slightly with a bit of a coincidence.
There isn’t a problem with your Pot its just the fact its a Audio pot and here is why…
I’m about to build a eurorack 4 channel mixer at the weekend.
Ive bought hundreds of potentiometers (pots) over the last 10 years and they come in two types Audio or Linear, now being into eurorack i just automatically thought Audio pots would deal with Audio signals and Linear would deal with voltages until yesterday (how wrong i was)
So the befaco mixer i’m going to build uses Linear pot, i’m thinking thats odd as its only handling Audio and not Voltages.
So when i looked up Audio v Linear pots i found you can use either.
The following is copy/paste from the internet which basically answers your complaint…
Guitar pots generally fall into two taper categories – audio and linear. This describes the point of resistance as the pot is turned. For example, a linear pot has a uniform taper – when the pot is turned to its halfway point of the cycle (50%), it will reach 50% of its total resistance, hence the name linear. It is based on a uniform line, scale and taper. If it is turned to 25% of its cycle, then it will have a resistance reading of 25% and so on.
Audio pots on the other hand will increase/decrease most of its resistance in the final 50% of its rotation. So which one is better and which guitars use linear or audio? It is down to personal preference. The problem with linear pots is that the human ear does not work in the same way. So whilst the resistance reading will be 50% when it is turned half way, our ears will interpret it differently. The easiest way to demonstrate this is to increase and decrease the volume on a radio or your TV. The volume increase from 10-20 is a lot greater than that from 0-10. Despite being equal amounts of volume increase, the difference between the two is unequal. This is why audio pots were invented - to compensate for the fact that human hearing doesn’t work in algorithm form. When both pots are turned all the down, the resistance will be 0% of its stated value and when both pots are fully opened the resistance will be 100% of its stated value. The difference between the two is the levels as they are being rotated.
That’s great info, many thanks! That makes a lot of sense, now that it is explained. In practice, just turning knobs and listening it never bothered me (I’ve had the Monostation for at least two years and never noticed it until now).
To be honest i don’t even know why that JD is there, i put it there one day and just kinda can’t be bothered to move it
You are quite right, I had not thought about them being audio type potis, which are quite a pain in the ass if you mistakenly install them in your guitar in the wrong place. I did that once.
I had not put that together though, thanks for pointing it out.
Well, guess that mystery is solved, eh Scooby?
seems so. Not sure why they went this way though…it just makes a lot of useless range of the knob. Well, as you said, now we know, and knowing is half the battle. Or something.
It seems odd to me as well for gain staging purposes, though I can’t imagine wanting a synth at less than 50% volume for that.
Now I’m wondering what the rest of my gear is like and if I’ve ever owned a synth with a volume knob vs. a linear knob before.
Kind of a stolen idea but…I’m curious…what do you all consider your original hardware setup? I’m sure many of you have told me before…but…pot head…so I don’t remember.
I’d say mine was an ESX (Electribe SX) + Mopho Desktop.
Roland xp-50 followed by a mpc 1000 and a Waldorf microwave. All used. That was in Montreal around 2005 to 2007 ish. The Xp-50 had a couple expansions installed and had great sounds!
Broken Juno 106 with a pair of old consumer-grade stereo speakers as monitors
I didn’t start until a bit over two years ago, started with a DSI Rev2 (which I was just playing earlier today) and then later added an FX unit, which I didn’t enjoy and sold. To me, I feel like I’m still on the first iteration of that setup because I haven’t moved or anything, so I still have most of my stuff and it just keeps growing and getting moved around.
Today, I wired up the audio input of my Matrixbrute into my patchbay and set up a preset to use it as an FX send for the analog delay in there. Worked great once I got the gainstaging right on the input (it has a pop-out trim knob on the back that was a real pain to find). It’s just what my Microfreak needed, sounded good on my Rev2 as well.
It was the age before the internet so coming across info was hard, especially as a noob with no knowledge of the electronic scene as I was too busy with punk and hardcore.
So my first piece of shit was a horrible Yamaha Djx 2. Let’s not waste digital ink on it.
The piece I consider my first setup was the Roland MC-505.
For comparison here it is next to the Akai Force
And I complain about the size of the Force…
Cassette 4 track, Alesis Sr16, Yamaha su10 sampler, couple of guitars and a duck ton of pedals.
A Korg es-1 and a boombox with mic input
A golden Monologue with some cheap guitar pedals. I still have all of it, as I tend to never sell music equipment.
Thanks for sharing everyone, very interesting to know how your journeys began having watched how everyone’s setups have evolved over time.
Pretty sure I found IDMf because I was asking questions about the ESX and damn that might be almost 10 years ago now.
Damn, that was waaaay too long ago - we’re talking 1985 here
Bass guitar (can’t remember the brand, it was semi-decent, weighed a ton - bit like a Fender Precision Bass) + 2nd hand amp that was rather shit and electrocuted me a couple times.