Softsynths Thread


Since you mention it, I kinda have mixed feelings about Falcon. It’s great for layering different oscillators and effects, but for me, it wasn’t the end-all synth I hoped it would be. For instance, it’s more clicking work to add modulation as compared to some other synths, but what disappointed me a bit is that I would really like some more morph options for oscillators and modularity and crossmodulation between oscillators, like using FM or PM between the wavetable or granular oscillators, but from what I used, different oscillator types are like parallel layers, like the wavetable oscillator only has an internal FM source and no other morph options IIRC. Some great oscillators and effects though in any case.


Pursuant to a conversation @metaside and I were having in another thread, I downloaded the free version of Vital tonight and gave it a try and I am very impressed. It does seem to do stereo modulation/signal routing throughout. And I whipped up a preset that will probably be a song in 30 minutes. I didn’t even bring in the wavetables, just used saws and then was able to figure out enough of the osc editor to make myself a passable sine. The warping is very fun and usable. I’m a little bummed that I can’t make the effects per-voice as I found myself using a keytracking flanger and wishing I had one for each note, but hey this thing is free and it got me farther than I ever got when I tried Serum.


VITAL AUDIO … this vst sounds very good … fair price


My thought is that you should be able to fake anything like that like faking MPE functionality in Ableton with an MPE controller by sending different MIDI channels to different instrument racks.

And yeah, Vital is def a cool synth!


Oh, you mean just run an instance for each note in mono? I actually forgot I used to do that sometimes. I’ll give that a try and see how the CPU and my patience like it.


Yeah, with an MPE controller you can play in poly and just send the MIDI information to alternating MIDI channels.


Live 11 is now MPE capable …


Yeah, a bit late to the game imho, I think it’s not even released yet and it’s not free but a part of an expensive upgrade instead… At least they finally managed to implement it… Probably gonna get it at some point, since MPE + Capture seems like a very fine combination, but it took them sooooooooooooo long I already got used to Bitwig. My baby son only knows Bitwig so far since that’s what he plays his LinnStrument with lol…

However, for the thing WN is writing about, I think you would still need the workaround.


i’ll skip this update … way too expensive indeed … 200 bucks for just a few stuff … i have enough spending 200 every 2 years or so … it’s just my opinion


Yeah, it’s 160 rn with 20% off, but I completely agree that that’s a lot of bucks for not that much functionality. The list of new features is not very long and I really think the only thing of interest to me would be the MPE integration…


Comping (finally) is going to be big for a lot of people, I think. Some of the new effects looks really fun.

But yeah, $200 for a handful of features (some of them that should have been implemented ages ago) and a effects seems steep. I’d like to think that they spent their time upgrading things under the hood, but if they did I think they’d tout that to pad their fairly short list.

This is probably a good time for me to finally get around to upgrading to Ableton 10 :smiley:


I would brag about FL Studio’s free updates for life, but I didn’t know when I bought it that to update you basically back up your install/projects, delete everything/uninstall, and then install the new version and dump your backup data in. Before I learned this I installed several plugins in the folder structure of FL, and I don’t want to deal with breaking all those. So in practice I update like every couple of major versions (I had 10, skipped 11 and 12, got 20 but have not updated since June 2019). I might bite the bullet and reinstall all my stuff if they added MPE so that I could get that without having to wrap my mind around another DAW.


Yeah, that sucked with FL, I remember (still have it installed but have not used it in years.). I must say Bitwig is pretty good on this front. the updates come in, you install them, it works. Similar to what Meta says though…BWs subscription model is also expensive for my taste ( read: I am a cheap bastard). I skip every other year on their subscription so far.
Vis-a-vis updates again, Mixbus is also pretty cool in that for major revisions it can install in parallel so you can keep working your old projects but start new ones in the newest version. I don’t recall any of my other DAWs being able to do that.


Well that’s strange - I don’t have that problem at all with FL Studio… Every update goes smoothly and all my file structures remain the same without having to backup anything first :thinking: