# BB 113 - Nihonium

**URL:** <https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996>\
**Category:** The Beat Battles\
**Created:** [August 10, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996 "2020-08-10T06:39:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![White\_Noise](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/white_noise/32/2082_2.png) [@White\_Noise](https://idmforums.com/u/White_Noise)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/41 "2020-08-18T05:37:44Z")

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I’ve been working on mine for a few days. Sounds are as done as they’re going to be and I’ve sketched out a 3-ish minute structure. Done most of the musical writing, started mixdown. Need to do automation to sell the different sections as different. Hopefully I can finish before my ears tire out tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/guy_wachtel/32/10269_2.png) [@Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/u/Guy_Wachtel)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 5:40am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/42 "2020-08-18T05:40:05Z")

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Looking forward to hearing it.

> [@White\_Noise](#):
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> Hopefully I can finish before my ears tire out tomorrow.

The struggle is real, good luck!

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/43 "2020-08-19T01:46:39Z")

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3 DAYS PEOPLE LET’S GET SOME MORE ENTRIES!!! (Body seems unclear, is it a complete sentence?)

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**Author:** ![Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/faintbrush/32/4425_2.png) [@Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/u/Faintbrush)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/44 "2020-08-19T22:09:36Z")

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Well, here’s what I came up with…

https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?visual=false&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F878689447&show_artwork=true&maxheight=166

Ended up being a nice excuse to learn Logic’s new sampler synths - this basically ended up devolving into a bunch of wavetable/granular synth sounds using the samples as sources. In retrospect, would have liked to keep one or two more recognizable samples. Also hoped to tighten a few more things and add more automation, but I got a work deadline that I need to get back to, so I think this is where I put my pencil down. Enjoy!

First two chords are a Bb maj9 and Eb maj7.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/guy_wachtel/32/10269_2.png) [@Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/u/Guy_Wachtel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/45 "2020-08-19T22:51:00Z")

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Glad to see you had time to work up a submission! 🙂

A lot of really nice melodic and harmonic stuff going on here. Cool to hear an entry that really focuses on that sort of sound. 🙂

Your drums turned out nice and crisp too. Good work there.

> [@Faintbrush](#):
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> Ended up being a nice excuse to learn Logic’s new sampler synths

It’s heckin lit fam. haha!

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/guy_wachtel/32/10269_2.png) [@Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/u/Guy_Wachtel)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/46 "2020-08-19T22:51:58Z")

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> [@IO\_Madness](#):
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> Body seems unclear, is it a complete sentence?

As a friend of mine would say… It’s good enough for the girls we roll with. haha!

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/47 "2020-08-19T23:14:28Z")

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The content AI bots are getting too smart for their own good!

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/48 "2020-08-19T23:28:19Z")

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Nice!! A good track on time is better than better track late! lol Your submission is most welcome!

I’m liking the odd drums and bits, reminds me of more quirky/funky electronica like Mouse on Mars or Plaid. Cool exploring tools in Logic. Dig the track!

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**Author:** ![Tsachi](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/tsachi/32/3127_2.png) [@Tsachi](https://idmforums.com/u/Tsachi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/49 "2020-08-20T00:47:44Z")

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Lol so far only 7asid has been able to correctly identify their key

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/50 "2020-08-20T00:53:31Z")

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I honestly guessed at the scale, but you’re saying it’s not A#? That’s the key-iest key I felt, and I checked it with a synth. I had some minor thirds in there, so I guessed A# minor is it not A#?!?

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/51 "2020-08-20T00:54:15Z")

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In my defense, I’m a sample masher not a composer.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/guy_wachtel/32/10269_2.png) [@Guy\_Wachtel](https://idmforums.com/u/Guy_Wachtel)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:24am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/52 "2020-08-20T01:24:26Z")

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Hmm… if you’re checking that stuff out and feel like you’ve found discrepancies, you should at least let us know how you know and why.

(edit) I went back and checked the song… I think you’re right, So I’m going to try again. I’m not offended either, but I am bummed out that I missed the mark the first time.

I think maybe is in F#min. I’m fairly certain that is the base chord, not what I had described in my original post. I haven’t studied any theory for many years (i think about 15), so I don’t remember if other chords are going to affect the key of a composition. Let me know.

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/53 "2020-08-20T01:36:54Z")

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I mean, I’m not offended or anything lol chord and harmonic arrangement are nowhere in my mind when i’m making a track. if anything, it’s something i have to go back and try to determine from all the notes that ended up in the track. i try to listen for offnotes or weird changes, but generally i’m not thinking about notes beyond how they sound together lol.

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**Author:** ![Tsachi](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/tsachi/32/3127_2.png) [@Tsachi](https://idmforums.com/u/Tsachi)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:15am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/54 "2020-08-20T02:15:02Z")

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It doesn’t really matter if the key you say is correct or not, doesn’t disqualify you. I am hearing plenty of 7 and 9 chords so the challenge is met for everyone so far.

IO is in the key of Gmin, makeuswhole is in the keys of C#min and then Bmin (nice 9 chords yo) and Faintbrush is in the key of G#maj, first two chords are some sort of Cmin+6+7 and C#maj. 7asid is in fact Fmaj7 and then it also goes into Fmaj7/A# (read as “F major 7 over A sharp”) which is super cool.

The method I used is I just play the chords I’m hearing with an instrument that is definitely in tune with A440.

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/55 "2020-08-20T02:25:28Z")

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idk man, i’m feeling an A# more than a G.

I mean, G minor and A# minor will have a bit of overlap, so it’s not too far off, but going off what I’d hear as a bass note I’d think A#/Bb.

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**Author:** ![White\_Noise](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/white_noise/32/2082_2.png) [@White\_Noise](https://idmforums.com/u/White_Noise)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/56 "2020-08-20T03:22:42Z")

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https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?visual=false&url=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.soundcloud.com%2Ftracks%2F878811709&show_artwork=true&maxheight=166&secret_token=s-r1yjRofQyr0

Here’s my track. It didn’t end up great IMO. I just don’t have the dynamic control I want given the sample material for my bass sound, and something about the timing just feels janky. IDK what it is, there’s a nice amount of humanization in the parts that feel jankiest. I even played in the rhythm to get it right where I wanted, and still it just feels off. The kick is pretty dope though, proud of that.

Every individual sound was done in it’s own instance of Iris, except the hats where I did velocity to envelope amount to control the open/closed hats. I did a vamp between a d# major and minor 9th, and did some inversions with that. Not sure what key the song is in, but I used almost every black key, so it definitely isn’t C Major.

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**Author:** ![mnkvolcno](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/mnkvolcno/32/246_2.png) [@mnkvolcno](https://idmforums.com/u/mnkvolcno)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:34am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/57 "2020-08-20T03:34:56Z")

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dang nice work everyone. Just realized i need to finish mine. derp.

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**Author:** ![Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/faintbrush/32/4425_2.png) [@Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/u/Faintbrush)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/58 "2020-08-20T03:35:35Z")

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Hey Tsachi, thanks for keeping us honest!

I’m sure it was Bb and Eb in my sequencer, but you are totaly right, my samples are all like a step and half flat. I guess I didn’t check the tuning when I was setting up the samples - just sorta plugged plugged bits in and made sure the layers were (mostly) in tune with the each other.

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**Author:** ![Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/faintbrush/32/4425_2.png) [@Faintbrush](https://idmforums.com/u/Faintbrush)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 3:39am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/59 "2020-08-20T03:39:49Z")

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> [@IO\_Madness](#):
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> I’m liking the odd drums and bits, reminds me of more quirky/funky electronica like Mouse on Mars or Plaid. Cool exploring tools in Logic. Dig the track!

Thanks! I definitely love me some Plaid, but I had to look up Mouse on Mars, man they’ve got some cool stuff!

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**Author:** ![IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/user_avatar/idmforums.com/io_madness/32/152_2.png) [@IO\_Madness](https://idmforums.com/u/IO_Madness)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 4:25am UTC](https://idmforums.com/t/bb-113-nihonium/3996/60 "2020-08-20T04:25:28Z")

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Yeah, they have some interesting and catchy stuff. I saw them live in Denver once! Personal fav albums are Idiology and Parastrophics.

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