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Old 12-02-2013, 01:26 AM   #1
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Recommended Texts on Tempo/Time Signatures?

I'm trying to find some acredited texts on tempo/time signature/measure/shifts analysis and their use primarily in relation to classical music (which of course can be applied towards modern music)

Ive found great info/pdfs on harmony, arrangement, orchestration but as yet not the issue of timing etc.

Any suggestions?

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Old 02-03-2013, 12:58 AM   #2
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Re: Recommended Texts on Tempo/Time Signatures?

I got well into time sigs at one point and found the best tool to be Youtube. Type in 13/16 time signature and you can guarantee there's some drummer somewhere demonstrating.

I've never read a book on it and I think I have a pretty decent grasp.

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:53 AM   #3
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May I ask why?

Its not like them classics are known for their tight rhythms

how they build up sound is great though drop etc
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Old 02-03-2013, 07:30 PM   #4
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May I ask why?

Its not like them classics are known for their tight rhythms

how they build up sound is great though drop etc
Are you kidding me? the classics are definitely known for their "tight" innovative rhythms. Debussy has incredible rhythmic blurring to the point where you can hardly hear a downbeat. Edgard Varese wrote some of the most complicated rhythms there is. Stravinsky wrote rhythms that still throw off professional orchestras. Look at some of Chopins piano rhythms, 22nd tuplets? 37 tuplets? Etc.

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Are you kidding me? the classics are definitely known for their "tight" innovative rhythms. Debussy has incredible rhythmic blurring to the point where you can hardly hear a downbeat. Edgard Varese wrote some of the most complicated rhythms there is. Stravinsky wrote rhythms that still throw off professional orchestras. Look at some of Chopins piano rhythms, 22nd tuplets? 37 tuplets? Etc.
Links! I'm probably to biased and I don't listen much to it.
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Links! I'm probably to biased and I don't listen much to it.

Try counting this, it's so difficult. I have played timpani for this piece and almost every bar changes meter. There are so many intricate polyrhythms in this work. At some points stravinsky writes 3 over 4 over 5 over 7 over 9. Seriously, listen atleast 2 minutes into it;

Obscuring of the downbeat through phrase elision;

Insane rhythmic cross rhythms, 7s over 3s, etc.

Some of the runs in this are insane rhythms;

Just a bit. It's true, most of the music up till the Romantic period has rather static rhythm but that is because the Classical period emphasized regular phrase structure, balance, and symmetry. This aesthetic trait was revived from the older Greek and Roman artist philosophy. That is why the Classical period is called Classical, artists sought to revive classical antiquity. Most music after Beethoven begins to take on greater rhythmic complexity. Beethoven had some fun hemiolas in his symphonies!

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Man the first one u posted is totally awesome. You won me over with that one.

Why not just try and replicate it?

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