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Old 03-08-2012, 07:56 PM   #21
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

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you're taking my post way too defensively man
It sounded like you were saying it was a useless endeavor to learn max/msp because it would already have been something made before as a freeware plugin, as in, why bother programming if everything's already been made, to which I say, "no, there is plenty to learn through programming to bother".

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Old 03-08-2012, 09:00 PM   #22
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

yes and no I think it's... pointless in a good way? Knowledge for the sake of knowledge or something. I certainly don't see "nerd" as a an insult or the accumulation of arguably pointless knowledge as a bad thing. And I'm guilty of spending weeks building pedestrian effects and instruments, too.


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Old 04-08-2012, 12:59 PM   #23
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

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yes and no I think it's... pointless in a good way? Knowledge for the sake of knowledge or something. I certainly don't see "nerd" as a an insult or the accumulation of arguably pointless knowledge as a bad thing. And I'm guilty of spending weeks building pedestrian effects and instruments, too.


Also I wish there were more nerds participating in the IDMf beat battle. The kids there are no fun.
I try not to make stuff that's already available. It has to have something that other things don't or can't do.

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Old 17-08-2012, 07:47 AM   #24
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

Can anyone recommend a language that allows you to work directly with audio files (as opposed to streaming audio)?

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Old 17-08-2012, 07:57 AM   #25
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

I mainly use Pd for generative ambient music: long evolving drones, with random artifacts happening, etc.
I recently made a patch I thought I could do a tutorial about, but then usually there doesn't seem to be a wide audience for this type of stuff, so meh...
Oh, and I use it for granular synthesis as well.

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Old 17-08-2012, 08:37 AM   #26
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

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Can anyone recommend a language that allows you to work directly with audio files (as opposed to streaming audio)?
I/O, you should take a look at ChucK if you haven't already.

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Don't know that much about it, but it might be of some use seeing as you have a head for programming..unlike myself, I'm sorry to say. Wish I had the aptitude for it but I somehow could never get my head around coding, no matter how hard I tried. I prefer the TAPS program they brought out built off of ChucK.

Still, it might be something you would like try, even if it's not right for what your talking about here.

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Old 17-08-2012, 06:41 PM   #27
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

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Can anyone recommend a language that allows you to work directly with audio files (as opposed to streaming audio)?
Is there any reason you wouldn't want to do it in Max/MSP? You can load a sound into a buffer then make controls to play it back through fx into another buffer that can be saved. The only downside is you have to wait the length of the audiofile for it to 'render'.

I work primarily realtime, so this is a shot in the dark, but I know that supercollider is made to work with audio input files. Seems to work like max in that you can load files, effect them into buffers, and resave results. The last example on this page loads an audio file and granularly resynthesizes it.
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Of course, there's always c/c++ if you're into that sort of thing :b. If what you want is simple enough you could write a few little programs to read waves, process the data, and resave.

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Old 18-08-2012, 08:29 AM   #28
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

The tutorials for Max/MSP and help files walk you through most everything. You can cut and paste like mad out of them when you are just getting started.

I took a course in it that ended with us doing a performance based on a patch we created. Mine divided my midi controller into 4 instruments and 8 FX that could be placed anywhere in the room (based on volume on 4 speakers and amount of reverb) and then rotated in a direction and speed controlled by me while still maintaining their relative positions. Like a crazy tornado of sound. The actual composition of the song, which had to be played live, was pretty simple since I had to place each instrument and control what was going on with the motion of the sounds.

Was pretty fun, but I haven't used it much since. Took hours of programming to get it all working and my brain isn't smart like that anymore.
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Old 19-08-2012, 07:31 AM   #29
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

I'm trying to do edits that go down to the sample level and max/msps stuff works on milliseconds, I haven't messed with Gen~ yet, however. Anyone do something with Gen~?

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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

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I'm trying to do edits that go down to the sample level and max/msps stuff works on milliseconds, I haven't messed with Gen~ yet, however. Anyone do something with Gen~?
I used Gen to extend my stutter fx/ buffer player a bit. Sample level addressing is possible in regular max/msp but its really finicky, gen makes things a lot easier. Peek and Poke~ objects were way easier to use for dynamic looping when wired up in gen~.

Perhaps you should try it!

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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

Also, If you do try gen integration and have any specific questions feel free to ask. It sounds like our projects cover quite a bit of the same area. I could find my old patches for those if need be.

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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

I've just started with it. I made a drone machine with it, but it was boring as all hell. Right now I'm working on a reverb/delay with a step-sequenced frequency shifter. Still trying to get that part right.
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

Mostly use it for audio processing stuff, glitching, granular, the type of thing. At the moment I am in the very early stages of building an installation using and Arduino board and sensors feeding data into max. Exciting stuff Arduino.

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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

i've been working with fft~ a little recently.

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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

for example to set a threshhold for an audio input and to trigger a sample (or send midi) if the Volume raises above the threshhold...

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Can anyone recommend a language that allows you to work directly with audio files (as opposed to streaming audio)?
Supercollider, but perhaps I have misunderstood your question?

Though I use PD, I should also add something to this thread. Write now I am trying to turn my PadKontrol into a step sequencer using native mode. Its as much an exercise in learning how to work with hardware using sysex as anything else.

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I mainly use Pd for generative ambient music: long evolving drones, with random artifacts happening, etc.
I recently made a patch I thought I could do a tutorial about, but then usually there doesn't seem to be a wide audience for this type of stuff, so meh...
Oh, and I use it for granular synthesis as well.
No no, please do both. I will be an audience.
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Supercollider, but perhaps I have misunderstood your question?
I posted that over a year ago.

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I posted that over a year ago.
Dang, you're right. Well, hopefully you are an expert with Supercollider or some other lang now.
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Re: How do you people use Max/Msp

Most of my MAx use, althought Ill admit to slacking on the Max side the past year, when I get a few hours to make tunes, I don't want to be programming.

I digress, most of my max work is based in Sequencers, little odd and experimental ones that give off different rhythms and melodies than Id think about, let alone program.

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