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Old 10-06-2016, 04:37 PM   #1
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Mono bass?

Obviously having been around this forum for awhile, I've picked this up and am a huge fan of mono'ing my bass and kick. It just sounds cleaner.

My buddies are remixing a tune of mine however, and it's not a practice they're aware of. I'm wondering it will be a problem for me to mono the bass on the master they send me, instead of the individual tracks in the mix. Does this make a difference at all? Easier for me to just do it in master instead of asking them to resend me tracks with kick/bass mono'd.

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Old 10-06-2016, 05:14 PM   #2
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Re: Mono bass?

Why would you be altering the sound of their remix anyways? Just leave it the way it is - if you want them to remix your song is it not to get their sound and vision?
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Old 10-06-2016, 07:55 PM   #3
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Re: Mono bass?

To answer your question, monoing the primary frequency range on the master that the bass and kick occupy will mono lets just say (talking purposes only) 75hz and below. Assuming your kick is more than just a sub, as in it has a top layer, occupies a much wider frequency range. So you wouldn't be able to get the whole thing anyway without it effecting other elements too. Same with the bass assuming it's more than an 80hz sub or whatever.

Essentially no, it's not the same.

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Old 10-06-2016, 08:00 PM   #4
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Re: Mono bass?

^^ This.

also, if by making your mono bass and kick parts stereo they're simply taking 2 instances of the same track and hard panning them all they're effectively doing is making it louder.

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Old 12-06-2016, 05:02 PM   #5
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Re: Mono bass?

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To answer your question, monoing the primary frequency range on the master that the bass and kick occupy will mono lets just say (talking purposes only) 75hz and below. Assuming your kick is more than just a sub, as in it has a top layer, occupies a much wider frequency range. So you wouldn't be able to get the whole thing anyway without it effecting other elements too. Same with the bass assuming it's more than an 80hz sub or whatever.

Essentially no, it's not the same.
OK good to know that it's not the same.

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Old 12-06-2016, 05:34 PM   #6
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Re: Mono bass?

I'm a bit confused.
Are you mixing/mastering their remix of your original track? Then you can go ahead and use a M/S EQ and low shelving cut the sides at around 200Hz...or you can "make-mono" at a certain frequency and below (with Nugen Audio Monofilter, GVST GMonoBass, Boz Mongoose, etc).

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Old 14-06-2016, 01:48 AM   #7
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Re: Mono bass?

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I'm a bit confused.
Are you mixing/mastering their remix of your original track? Then you can go ahead and use a M/S EQ and low shelving cut the sides at around 200Hz...or you can "make-mono" at a certain frequency and below (with Nugen Audio Monofilter, GVST GMonoBass, Boz Mongoose, etc).
Sorry, to clarify: I am doing the final mastering on the remixes they sent me of my original track. They sent me the mixed but unmastered WAV files. I'm doing the final mastering and getting all the volumes and dynamics as close as possible. I know none of them mono'd up their bass/kicks, so I wanted to use Pro-Q's M/S feature, and cut all the sides below 150-200hz. I usually employ this practice on individual tracks in the mix, but can I drop Pro-Q with all the sides cut below 150hz on the master chain of each of my buddies remixes?

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Old 14-06-2016, 02:16 AM   #8
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Re: Mono bass?

Try it out! I have heard of the opposite being done on mixes, where the highs are widened so why not
Then if it doesn't work don't do it!

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Old 14-06-2016, 02:19 AM   #9
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Re: Mono bass?

M\S is the key, you can also check the equilibrium eq, because you can set the volume faders for M and S, so you can mix those signals to your taste, and just eq them
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Old 14-06-2016, 09:29 AM   #10
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Re: Mono bass?

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I usually employ this practice on individual tracks in the mix, but can I drop Pro-Q with all the sides cut below 150hz on the master chain of each of my buddies remixes?
Yes, this is pretty common practice in mastering, if needed.

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Old 14-06-2016, 01:13 PM   #11
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Re: Mono bass?

This is a technique I often use too with PRO-Q's m-s controls. Funnily enough I used to wonder this same exact question too when using it on my masters. As for working with kicks and basses, I don't keep them mono because often not all parts need to be mono, certainly for the bass where the mid range layers are concerned, but this can often apply to the upper layers of the kicks too.

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