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Old 24-02-2010, 07:08 PM   #1
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Why does most IDM suck?

everytime i hear what is supposedly IDM all i can think of is that it sounds like a shallow aphex twin.

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Old 24-02-2010, 07:44 PM   #2
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

because most of the time I think people forget that it first has to be musical and not just a technological contest for the most intricate FX or glitch in the universe.

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Old 24-02-2010, 11:26 PM   #3
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

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because most of the time I think people forget that it first has to be musical and not just a technological contest for the most intricate FX or glitch in the universe.
Who says glitch or fx isn't musical?
If you ask me, most idm fails because of poor melodic content, not mad glitch.
The melodies that are there aren't engaging, so why put them there at all?

'fx and glitch' is a whole musical world in itself, and shouldn't be disregarded so easily..
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Old 24-02-2010, 11:41 PM   #4
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

but it's also what I'm saying. Probably I wasn't clear, sorry.
I don't mean glitch&fx are not musical at all, but lots of producer focus mainly on that and that's why the track suck in the end. So, i'm with you as well on this, I think what matters is a proper balance between all elements in a track, not just a shit melody but awesome fx'es or the other way around.
I said 'musical', means melodies usually, no?


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Old 24-02-2010, 11:43 PM   #5
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

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everytime i hear what is supposedly IDM all i can think of is that it sounds like a shallow aphex twin.
What kinda stuff you talking about, got any examples?

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Old 24-02-2010, 11:47 PM   #6
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

IDM doesn't suck

you suck

check the IDM label albums then come back and tell us IDM sucks.

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Old 24-02-2010, 11:56 PM   #7
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

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everytime i hear what is supposedly IDM all i can think of is that it sounds like a shallow aphex twin.
I'm confused. Are you saying aphex twin is IDM or that any IDM isn't as good as Aphex Twin? Either way; fail.
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Old 25-02-2010, 12:31 AM   #9
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

It's not just most IDM, it's most music in general.
And it's not even just most music, it's most things in general.

If it wasn't for all that dull and mediocre crap in the world we wouldn't be able to see the great things for what they were - as there wouldn't be anything to compare them to.

So try to appreciate the shit for what it is, a reminder of the fact that there are still things out there that are awesome, or as The Books put it "enjoy your worries, you might never have them again".

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Old 25-02-2010, 03:00 PM   #10
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

i'm new to this whole genre

IMO, no matter what the music genre is....

be it Jazz - Pop - C&W or IDM

there will always be innovators

and

there will always be imitators


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Old 25-02-2010, 04:00 PM   #11
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

What Fox said:

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because most of the time I think people forget that it first has to be musical and not just a technological contest for the most intricate FX or glitch in the universe.
I think you would find that a higher proportion of people who listen to IDM also make electronic music, compared with most other music genres. So while a lot of IDM might make other producers thing 'wow, I wonder how they made those micro edits so intricate', it might not mean much to people who don't see the beauty in what might sound to them to be frenetic meaningless noise.

On the other hand, if you do know a fair bit about producing, a fair bit of IDM may seem dull because you can tell how it's made and this desensitizes you to it.

The irony is though that there is still so much more amazing music to be made with just an 808 and a 303, or just an acoustic piano...

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Old 25-02-2010, 05:09 PM   #12
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

I didn't say all IDM I said most, I simply meant what I said and that is that the first thing that comes to mind when I hear most IDM is that is sounds like shallow aphex, I guess if you want to interpret that differently it's up to you but I wasn't comparing IDM to aphex I just simply was stating the first thing that comes to mind when I hear it.

Also I disagree with the statement that without lower quality music we would be unable to appreciate the better qualtiy, because I got into electronic music mainly through aphex twin and only found myself to be consistently disappointed when attempting to find other stuff that was just as good.
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Old 25-02-2010, 05:15 PM   #13
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

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I didn't say all IDM I said most, I simply meant what I said and that is that the first thing that comes to mind when I hear most IDM is that is sounds like shallow aphex, I guess if you want to interpret that differently it's up to you but I wasn't comparing IDM to aphex I just simply was stating the first thing that comes to mind when I hear it.
That really sucks. I feel bad for you because there is a wide variey of IDM's out there.
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Old 25-02-2010, 05:37 PM   #14
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

no i really do try and find better music and sometimes I do thats why I said "most IDM" not "all". I am aware that there is a wide variety and I've listened to most of the IDMf albums in hope of finding some good tunes. Theres a few peppered here and there that are pretty decent.
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Old 25-02-2010, 05:46 PM   #15
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

Check out all the famous IDM producers first.
THose being the warp people, skam..

Bola, Otto Von Schirach, Richard Devine, Shapeshifter, Proswell, Proem, While, Phonem, Jega, Clark, Venetian Snares, Funckarma, Secede, Telefon Tel Aviv.. Etc..

Those are some good artists to begin with.
And though they might all have been associated with the IDM style, they are imo just 'electronic listening music'..
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

I hate Aphex Twin.
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Old 27-02-2010, 05:19 AM   #17
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Re: Why does most IDM suck?

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Check out all the famous IDM producers first.
THose being the warp people, skam..

Bola, Otto Von Schirach, Richard Devine, Shapeshifter, Proswell, Proem, While, Phonem, Jega, Clark, Venetian Snares, Funckarma, Secede, Telefon Tel Aviv.. Etc..

Those are some good artists to begin with.
And though they might all have been associated with the IDM style, they are imo just 'electronic listening music'..
Well said. Add Autechre the end thread.

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