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Old 06-09-2011, 11:06 PM   #1
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Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

Hey guys,

So I'm just learning the ropes of music production with ableton, and I was wondering if there were any good supplemental programs that you guys have found helpful or programs that work well to achieve certain things that ableton isn't as proficient at.

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Old 06-09-2011, 11:14 PM   #2
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton?

You'll receive plenty of suggestions, for all kinds of softsynths.
My humble opinion is to stick to Live until you know it inside out, it is a great sequencer and can give you all the tools and knowledge that you can later easily transfer to each software.
Take Impulse for example, a simple drum machine, yet it be as deep as you want it to be and once you get it, you'll understand most of the sample based drum machines out there.
You have Analogue, with a clear and easy to understand signal path.
There's Operator, I can't say anything about it as I haven't had time to jump into FM synthesis.
And Sampler and Simpler are just two great samplers.
It's sounds stupid, but read the manual, it's a great teaching tool as well.

Pretty much sure that once you know Live, you won't need anyone to tell you what you need next, your workflow will tell you.

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Old 07-09-2011, 01:08 PM   #3
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

... what automageddon said, is perfectly true!!!

other than maybe that 64bit vsts won't work with Live (which is 32bit), unless you install something like jbridge.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:08 PM   #4
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

i thought ableton was great, then i got into Max 4 Live, now i find Ableton supergreat.

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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

I agree fully on the thought that you shouldn't bother yourself with 3rd party stuff if you're just starting out. Live as well as other DAWs and music making applications come with most things, if not everything, you need.

You'll eventually learn to work with the programs and plug-ins and what not. It's easier to just start learning with the stuff that's included in Live (or any other program) than trying to find something new and just stacking more stuff that you have to learn to work with and which may actually do pretty much the same thing as the stuff that you already have (which is sometimes the case with plug-ins).

Keep it simple.
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Old 12-09-2011, 07:16 AM   #6
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton?

Did the OP specify that they had suite? because at least to me, that would make a big difference in whether to suggest additional plugs or not.

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Old 15-09-2011, 06:48 AM   #7
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

If you're not familiar with MIDI and its nuances, and its application within Live Id say, learn those first...

BUT, if you are, Ive found some standalone MIDI sequencers that might be useful, at the very least they're interesting;

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just a GM-drumkit-mapped percussion pad, can be used with touchscreens

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another from the Quotile guy

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just a neat little sequencer (that inspired a couple M4L devices), I guess its timing is off, and Woutter fixed it but the fixed version isn't compiled; if anyone here knows Flash/ActionScript and could compile a standalone (the original was Java, idk if the update is browser-only, or if Im just stupid, or what) I would LOVE YOU. Alternatively telling me to stfu and debasing my intelligence, while not exactly welcome, its certainly expected (prove me wrong by being a professional trollfree forum and Ill give you music, if you like)

Also there's Iannix but thats mainly an OSC sequencer, a whole other animal, Ill let Google get that one.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #8
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:25 PM   #9
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

A "dedicated" wave editor? Audacity?

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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

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i thought ableton was great, then i got into Max 4 Live, now i find Ableton supergreat.
This. You can build anything you want (with some patience and programming) and it works so well inside of Live.

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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

even if you don't have suite, if you learn and understand how live and it's signal path works you can pretty much build anything (possibly with the addition of some thirdparty stuff to compliment for the lack of say, operator and amp/cab, for example).

racks.
it's all about racks.

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Old 03-07-2012, 09:11 PM   #12
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

btw, is there a "lite" version of Ableton? I've always wanted to try it, but i cant afford a 400$ DAW. Is there like a demo version?
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

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btw, is there a "lite" version of Ableton? I've always wanted to try it, but i cant afford a 400$ DAW. Is there like a demo version?
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Old 06-07-2012, 02:44 AM   #14
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

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btw, is there a "lite" version of Ableton? I've always wanted to try it, but i cant afford a 400$ DAW. Is there like a demo version?
Well, the Launchpad edition is since it restricts you to 8 tracks and 12 effects, but you need a launchpad for that, and trust me, you NEED more than 12 effects.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:47 AM   #15
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

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btw, is there a "lite" version of Ableton? I've always wanted to try it, but i cant afford a 400$ DAW. Is there like a demo version?
i picked up live intro for 70 bucks on amazon, but the restrictions really do get to you sometimes (JUST ONE MORE VST :'( )
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Well, the Launchpad edition is since it restricts you to 8 tracks and 12 effects, but you need a launchpad for that, and trust me, you NEED more than 12 effects.
Not if you add efx then bounce the effected track to a new one and delete the old. I am limited to eight (I think) audio efx so I am constantly doing this.

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Old 11-07-2012, 07:09 PM   #17
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

Your question asked about things that would supplement the things Abelton "isn't proficient at." As others have said, I think you need to dive into the program first. Only then will you find out things that, in your opinion, Ableton isn't "proficient" at. To try to supplement Ableton at this stage is unnecessary IMO.
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Old 15-07-2012, 12:46 PM   #18
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Re: Good programs to accompany Ableton Live?

I would say sausage fattener by dada life, massive, nexus, sylenth1. that's a good start

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