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Old 09-11-2015, 10:58 PM   #161
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Re: Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

The rule behind that track is to copy the fuck out of Prodigy Experience and mix it with some rude words said by Americans.

And a fine rule it is too.

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Hi, could you tell me the theory behind the crash cymbal on this track thank you


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Old 10-11-2015, 07:24 AM   #165
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To late to the party to try and be constructive, but dammit that was a frustrating read.
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Re: Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

New to this thread so sorry if this has been covered.


I find the best way to explain rhythm is in a bar of 4/4 you have 4 chrochets, 8 quavers and 16 semiquavers.

Bars are then split up in half again and again and again until you have all of the subdivisions.

So basic rhythm would look like this.


1 = Semibreve or whole note

.5 .5 = Minim or Half note

.25 .25 .25 .25 = Crotchet or Quater Note

.125 .125 .125 .125 .125 .125 .125 .125 = Quaver or eighth not.

If you carry on that fraction down you'll end up with really really small divisions. This is the most basic way of understanding it before you worry about how to stack them up so there's the right ammout in there.


Let's make an 8th note rhythm.

For this an 8th note is going to be call 1.

There are 8 1's in a bar.

So you basic bar would look like this:

1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

What we can do now is add them together in different ways to create a different sequence of numbers but the total is still the same

2 1 1 2 1 1

If you say this out loud making sure you count up to 2 (IE one two) and tap something on all of the ones, you have a rhythm.


Hope this has helped.
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Old 06-02-2016, 12:09 AM   #169
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Ok so I read through this whole thing and here's what I'm seeing. Shin, I had the exact same problem once. My music wasn't grooving and I went on a holy crusade to find THE specific bit of theory to take my rhythm to the next level. Sorry to say, there is no specific technique that will solve the issue. What I can offer you, is a different perspective on the matter that has helped me.
Throughout the thread, you have asked for advice on what to put where: where to put hi hats, where to put bass hits, melody notes etc. And we can and have looked at the melody provided and offered some suggestions. But that will not help you on the next melody or your own, because they will be different.
Heres the guiding philosophy that helped my rhythm: rhythm is found, not in the elements themselves (drums, bass, etc), but in THE SPACE BETWEEN THE ELEMENTS. So for now, stop listening to the drum hits themselves or the melody notes themselves. Listen for the space between them. SHAPE THAT SPACE. That is where rhythm truly lies.

For practice. Put a metronome on or a simple 4x4 kick drum. Now grab your other percussion sample or instrument and play Just ONE NOTE per bar. Each time it loops, play that one note in a different place within the bar. This way you can start paying attention to the SPACE BETWEEN THE NOTES and begin to get a feel for how playing the notes at different spaces affects the overall flow. You can speed it up or slow it down, one note every two bars, four bars, etc. when you feel comfortable with the rhythmic space you've created you can begin to play more notes but always LISTEN TO THE SPACE.
You can try building up a drum loop this way. No more than one kick, or one snare per bar. Build it up slowly.
Another thing you can do is grab a nice melodic instrument and put different delays on it and play in time with the delays. Experiment with different time values on the delay. So for example, get a 1/4th note delay, turn it up so it almost sounds like it's just repeating the notes. Now start jamming, SLOWLY. Each time you play a note, let that delay ring out completely before playing the next note. After just a short amount of time, you will feel comfortable playing more notes in time with the delay because you have been LISTENING TO THE SPACE.
As for your remix, loop the melody and play along with it ONE PERCUSSION SAMPLE AT A TIME. At least for now. Start sparse. One kickdrum hit per bar or less. Do this for all the samples you want to use. Again after you are LISTENING TO THE SPACE for a while, you will naturally be able to hear where hits should go.
In conclusion, LISTEN TO THE SPACE/SILENCE between elements. Actively engaging with that space is how you develop your rhythm skills
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Old 10-02-2016, 03:01 AM   #171
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Re: Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

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Ok so I read through this whole thing and here's what I'm seeing. Shin, I had the exact same problem once. My music wasn't grooving and I went on a holy crusade to find THE specific bit of theory to take my rhythm to the next level. Sorry to say, there is no specific technique that will solve the issue. What I can offer you, is a different perspective on the matter that has helped me.
Throughout the thread, you have asked for advice on what to put where: where to put hi hats, where to put bass hits, melody notes etc. And we can and have looked at the melody provided and offered some suggestions. But that will not help you on the next melody or your own, because they will be different.
Heres the guiding philosophy that helped my rhythm: rhythm is found, not in the elements themselves (drums, bass, etc), but in THE SPACE BETWEEN THE ELEMENTS. So for now, stop listening to the drum hits themselves or the melody notes themselves. Listen for the space between them. SHAPE THAT SPACE. That is where rhythm truly lies.

For practice. Put a metronome on or a simple 4x4 kick drum. Now grab your other percussion sample or instrument and play Just ONE NOTE per bar. Each time it loops, play that one note in a different place within the bar. This way you can start paying attention to the SPACE BETWEEN THE NOTES and begin to get a feel for how playing the notes at different spaces affects the overall flow. You can speed it up or slow it down, one note every two bars, four bars, etc. when you feel comfortable with the rhythmic space you've created you can begin to play more notes but always LISTEN TO THE SPACE.
You can try building up a drum loop this way. No more than one kick, or one snare per bar. Build it up slowly.
Another thing you can do is grab a nice melodic instrument and put different delays on it and play in time with the delays. Experiment with different time values on the delay. So for example, get a 1/4th note delay, turn it up so it almost sounds like it's just repeating the notes. Now start jamming, SLOWLY. Each time you play a note, let that delay ring out completely before playing the next note. After just a short amount of time, you will feel comfortable playing more notes in time with the delay because you have been LISTENING TO THE SPACE.
As for your remix, loop the melody and play along with it ONE PERCUSSION SAMPLE AT A TIME. At least for now. Start sparse. One kickdrum hit per bar or less. Do this for all the samples you want to use. Again after you are LISTENING TO THE SPACE for a while, you will naturally be able to hear where hits should go.
In conclusion, LISTEN TO THE SPACE/SILENCE between elements. Actively engaging with that space is how you develop your rhythm skills
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not again
Yes. Not again. Unless you like talking to a wall, or banging your head on the table.
I always think it's funny when people ask questions and they really don't want the answers.
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Re: Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

Ha sorry for the cunty resurrection. It was on the first page and I had some thoughts. I wouldn't worry too much. That's all I have to say on the matter.
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Ha sorry for the cunty resurrection. It was on the first page and I had some thoughts. I wouldn't worry too much. That's all I have to say on the matter.
I was really just messing with you man, just to be clear. This thread was soooo frustrating when it was active. If you have time to waste, it might be hilarious to read.

In all seriousness, welcome to the forums

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Re: Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

did I get mad in this thread? oh yeah I remember now

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