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Old 28-04-2014, 11:20 AM   #1
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The downside of producing

A question for the people who only produce tracks.

Years ago I had a modest "hit" with one of my tracks. In a matter of only weeks the song exploded and was played in clubs all over the world and even got played on radiostations like the BBC. That was fantastic but... as fast as it got picked up even faster the circus ended and people forgot it about with the speed of light. Gone was all the attention and hype.Boom, just like that. I learned that one moment you're hot but before you know it you're not.

It's one of the downsides of producing tracks. Another one is that I hear stuff from others that deserve so much more attention but hardly get downloaded or played at all.

I am interested what you guys think about this matter and what you consider to be the downside of producing.

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Old 28-04-2014, 11:34 AM   #2
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Re: The downside of producing

do you always only read your lessons because you wanted good grades ? It's all about what goals you set for yourself
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Old 28-04-2014, 11:39 AM   #3
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Re: The downside of producing

Music is fun. To me there is no downside, except for perhaps when it comes to time/schedule.

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Old 28-04-2014, 11:58 AM   #4
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Re: The downside of producing

Other people putting their emotions/wants/needs on to your projects and losing control of them.
What the guys said above.
Life is tough.
Music biz can be fickle.

I have a friend who I used to play live with for a while who had a similarly shitty experience to you. We were courted by a small, independent but en-vogue London record label for about a year, playing parties with them which, to be fair, did raise his profile quite a bit, all the time being promised we'd get "signed" but never really being accepted into their tight clique of friends. He gave them some tracks for compilations which did ok but he never received a penny for his efforts and just did it for the love of it. Finally they asked him for an album of tracks. They went through about 40 of his tracks, ripping some to shreds simply because they weren't to their taste and picking the ones they liked, he had very little say, they also picked some pretty uninspired artwork for the release, but he didn't complain at all, just went with their ideas. Just as it was going to print he asked again about the money side of things, questioning stuff like mechanicals and other basics. Anyway, they didn't like it at all, fell out with him and deleted the release from their catalogue before it was released.
I think he was right to call them cunts.
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Old 28-04-2014, 12:45 PM   #5
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Re: The downside of producing

I write music for me. If anyone else likes it, its both a surprise and a bonus. The target audience is usually quite happy.

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Old 28-04-2014, 01:00 PM   #6
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Re: The downside of producing

Sometimes, it's all luck. Sometimes, you got the timing right. However, there are two sides to everything so make it last while it lasts. We have different tastes in music so we please some and some we don't. Though I think, it's also all about exposing your music to the right audience.
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Old 28-04-2014, 03:28 PM   #7
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Re: The downside of producing

There is one downside: Depression.

Jeez, that gets me every time I try to mix a song. I enjoy creating them, but the mixing period and sometimes arrangement is a pain in the ass, especially if I'm a self-taught kind of guy. Don't know what to do to improve. You keep chasing the rabbit when you listen to your favourite artists and almost cry at how much you suck even if you don't do it for the money.

I should try my hand at some Free Jazz but I never played any instruments apart from 4 tries on my new controller and some elementary school Recorder shit.

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Old 28-04-2014, 04:28 PM   #8
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Re: The downside of producing

A downside for me is that years ago I was really popular on SoundClick and then when I went to SoundCloud I would get a few downloads, but now nobody downloads my stuff even though they favorite them.

But I want people to download my stuff so I'm not forgotten after the favorite link is deleted (WHICH IT WILL BE... I HAVE A FREE ACCOUNT THAT I CYCLE THROUGH--I can't keep all the tunes there forever!)

When people downloaded my stuff, they'd listen at home and get to know the tune, they'd really get into it.

Nowadays, people will comment if I post in a forum, but they don't typically relate to what I'm trying to accomplish like they used to. I think it's because people have preconcieved notions of what music is supposed to be based upon current trends. But if you're somebody who is trying to go against the trends people don't know how to relate these days.

I'm not saying my music is perfect, but it's better than some stuff and I put a lot of effort into it.
I just wish I got more appreciation I guess.

I learned long ago in sound engineering school that I didn't want to deal with labels and their dirty tricks.

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Old 28-04-2014, 05:04 PM   #9
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whhen you get a writers block that is the downside for me. OH MY GOD i would want to break something. or when you produce something amazing but the mix just won't work no matter how hard you try the mix just doesn't work
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Old 28-04-2014, 05:16 PM   #10
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Re: The downside of producing

The only downside to composing and producing electronic music in this day and age, is knowing that the vast majority of people don't know how to and don't truly want to appreciate music on the theoretical, emotional and contextual level. They judge and criticize the music they listen to with words like "good", "swag", "busy", "shit" and "gay".

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Old 28-04-2014, 05:25 PM   #11
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The only downside to composing and producing electronic music in this day and age, is knowing that the vast majority of people don't know how to and don't truly want to appreciate music on the theoretical, emotional and contextual level. They judge and criticize the music they listen to with words like "good", "swag", "busy", "shit" and "gay".
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Old 28-04-2014, 07:46 PM   #12
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They judge and criticize the music they listen to with words like "good", "swag", "busy", "shit" and "gay".
5 gays out of 10.

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Creating art is pure fun. No downsides for me
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Old 28-04-2014, 10:50 PM   #14
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5 gays out of 10.
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Old 28-04-2014, 10:53 PM   #15
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Aww man I didn't get famous for that banger?!!!?

Never again!!!
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Old 28-04-2014, 11:08 PM   #16
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Re: The downside of producing

no downside for me.

sometimes i get frustrated with my own skillset (makes me work harder), and other times I'm pretty stoked on what I am capable of.

fortunately I'm not chasing the flavor of the week, nor making dance music so the people that are actually listening are in it for the music not for the "hits" (i guess). i think this makes my listeners a little less fickle.

my learning process and the whole releasing records thing has been very rewarding, though time consuming. I started working in DAW/Midi/Synth/Sampler stuff in 97... (yep, im old)

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Old 28-04-2014, 11:38 PM   #17
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A question for the people who only produce tracks.

Years ago I had a modest "hit" with one of my tracks. In a matter of only weeks the song exploded and was played in clubs all over the world and even got played on radiostations like the BBC. That was fantastic but... as fast as it got picked up even faster the circus ended and people forgot it about with the speed of light. Gone was all the attention and hype.Boom, just like that. I learned that one moment you're hot but before you know it you're not.
Dance music in DJ culture is probably the most "disposable" music in existence, especially these days. It's all about having either the hottest, most popular tunes by well known artists which get rinsed immediately or about finding those underground tracks which then also get rinsed immediately. Just the nature of the biz. You have to keep the momentum going or you'll get forgotten.

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Old 28-04-2014, 11:49 PM   #18
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The OP's post totally makes me think of this:
http://www.cracked.com/article_20939...-industry.html

Same story pretty much.
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Old 29-04-2014, 01:44 AM   #19
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That was kindof an enjoyable read, goes to show its possible to do very decently without all that hassle. Paints a picture of the really big labels that doesnt surprise me in the least though.

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Old 29-04-2014, 02:23 AM   #20
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Strange coincidence that I first read it today. But yeah, great insight and only serves to bolster what most of us (ok, some of us) already knew.

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