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Old 23-01-2014, 04:27 PM   #1
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USB/FireWire DAW controllers?

Hi everyone

As I have grown to hate working with only a keyboard and a mouse, I have been considering some kind of Daw controller/mixer that runs by firewire or USB, that features motorised faders for easy level mixing and movement around the project. At the college I went to we had a Mackie one but it was installed just before I left os I didn't have much of a chance to get to know it. I can't be affordin a Mackie one but I was thinking of something like the behringer BC series (very cheap) or the Alesis MasterControl (fairly cheap if you look in the right places).

Does anyone here use a DAW controller/mixer, what are your thoughts/recommendations?

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Re: USB/FireWire Daw controllers

Check out the AKAI APC series of controllers (APC 20 or 40), though if you want motorized faders the BCF2000 is quite alright from what I hear:

I'm currently using a BCR2000 which is just knobs - but it's a fantastic controller in term of configurability and connectivity:

Edit: Afaik there's mackie emulation for both of these Behringer devices in Live, which you aren't using...so - will have to manually map it then unless there's a script for Logic.
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Re: USB/FireWire Daw controllers

Presonus Faderport. If I was sure the Faderport worked with FL Studio I would own one already.

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There is an older version of the Mackie you can get on eBay for about half the money or less.

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Re: USB/FireWire Daw controllers

Tbh though - I always find the idea of using a controller in a production environment better than actual practice. The only thing I use a controller for now is for doing automation (using knobs) and occasionally the launchpad when I'm recording something. Other than that - my track layout changes all the time when busy with a song and I don't really need permanent access to the levels of my tracks - it's not like I've got a need to constantly ride the faders.

Personally I'd rather spend the money on an instrument (synth, flute, cello etc.) or a nice key or pad midi controller. So many times I've seen or heard of people getting a midi controller to dedicate to a VST(i) mapping or for production purposes and a few months later it's lying around collecting dust. Rather get something to jam with. Unless you're loaded then just buy everything I guess .
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Re: USB/FireWire DAW controllers?

I own the BCF2000 and freaking love it. I've used it with Ableton and FL Studio and it works great with both. At first I thought being limited to 8 faders was going to become arduous, but you can actually cycle through "pages" so you can assign to more than just 8 channels. The two-way automation is a nice touch too. It can also double as a full controller for starting/stopping playback and a few other neat features.

Having spent so much time with this I REALLY want the BCR-2000 so I can get some knobby goodness involved. Despite being a Behringer product, its a great device. I recommend it!

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Tbh though - I always find the idea of using a controller in a production environment better than actual practice. The only thing I use a controller for now is for doing automation (using knobs) and occasionally the launchpad when I'm recording something. Other than that - my track layout changes all the time when busy with a song and I don't really need permanent access to the levels of my tracks - it's not like I've got a need to constantly ride the faders.

Personally I'd rather spend the money on an instrument (synth, flute, cello etc.) or a nice key or pad midi controller. So many times I've seen or heard of people getting a midi controller to dedicate to a VST(i) mapping or for production purposes and a few months later it's lying around collecting dust. Rather get something to jam with. Unless you're loaded then just buy everything I guess .
Yea. Exactly. Once I get the basic levels its just tweaking anyway.

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Re: USB/FireWire DAW controllers?

fair well im cautious because a: im poor, and b: I don't wanna buy something that I won't actually find myself using very much, which has happened before. I have considered the faderport before and might still go for it.]

Wanted to find out opinions on such things as I am well aware that both hardware and software can seem like solutions to a problem which neither will fix, usually down to a frustration at not getting the sound you want or dissatisfying mixes. However the real solution is just more practice and knowledge, rather than tons of fancy plug-ins and gear, which I am a bit of a sucka for

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Re: USB/FireWire DAW controllers?

I know it's not motorized, but there's always the Korg NanoKontrol 2, that you can pick up new for around the £50 mark.

I've just bought one myself, but it hasn't arrived yet. By all accounts it's pretty good, with a dedicated "Mackie Control" setting for controlling standard DAW features. But, like I said, it's not motorized.

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I second the BCR/BCF option. Like you said, it's the cheapest with motorized faders available and it seems to hold it's value as used ones are all in the 75-90 euro pricerange so even if you get bored with it you can sell it for the same price you bought it for.

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Re: USB/FireWire DAW controllers?

tbh I got excited about this idea but now have resigned it for the thought of just gettin me a turntable and start sampling vinyls, I don't need more production based kit.

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tbh I got excited about this idea but now have resigned it for the thought of just gettin me a turntable and start sampling vinyls, I don't need more production based kit.
Lol! That´s definitely something different than considering a MIDI controller..

Then again I get the vibe. PC-based music sometimes really is like walking through a big candystore with an in insatiable hunger yet an indiscriminatory appetite

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Lol! That´s definitely something different than considering a MIDI controller..

Then again I get the vibe. PC-based music sometimes really is like walking through a big candystore with an in insatiable hunger yet an indiscriminatory appetite
precisely, obviously these do not serve the same purpose but I recon it will be more rewarding

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