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Old 16-10-2013, 07:25 PM   #1
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MIDI controllers

Hi everyone,

So I need some advice on buying a controller for live sets. I currently use Ableton 9 Live along with Virtual DJ (I know!). I'm a 1st year uni student so I can't take my technics here, so instead I have a mac at the moment and i've recently wanted to try my hand at production. Im still itching to do some mixing though and play live.

All i really need is something super basic and cheap, because i'm a student i dont really want to bother with all the new fancy effect mixers/controllers which look like a christmas tree, all i care about is the music i play and mixing it smoothly, i couldn't care less about looping etc. All i need is something small, 2 channel and nothing fancy. I was thinking maybe a Traktor Controller Z1

tl;dr advice on a simple 2 channel mixer/controller.

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Old 21-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #2
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Re: Need advice on MIDI controllers.

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Loads of my mates use Akai APC40 and swear by it:
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I prefer CDJs myself, although I have to admit the last few deep house nights I put on I was using my laptop, VirtualDJ and a mixtrack pro lol but the DJ box was raised and no one could see :-p

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Loads of my mates use Akai APC40 and swear by it:
I prefer CDJs myself, although I have to admit the last few deep house nights I put on I was using my laptop, VirtualDJ and a mixtrack pro lol but the DJ box was raised and no one could see :-p

Except i wouldn't want to buy CDJ's when i have perfectly good technics sitting at my house. My issue is that i'm at uni without my decks and i just want a mixer/controller to use with my laptop whilst my babies are at home...collecting dust :,(

that akai controller is completely ott for what i need dude, i dont need like 8 channels and a christmas light show. i honestly just need 2 upfaders, Low, Hi , MID EQ and thats it. i have a vestax pcv-175 at home but i wanted something more portable
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Pre-owned mixtrack pro is the only option there buddy.
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Pre-owned mixtrack pro is the only option there buddy.
try gumtree.
clock the one i posted, i cant post links but search it please. i dont need jogwheels i dont want to use something that will corrupt my use of vinyl
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Midi Keyboards

I've decided to buy a 49 key midi keyboard. Most likely I will get it from M-Audio specifically the Oxygen 49 but do you guys think there any better options.

Also have you guys modded your own Keyboard, make one from scartch or any random modification to it just for fun. I'm curious to see all the things Midi keyboards can be made to do, with the right modifications.
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Old 06-02-2014, 12:41 AM   #9
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

Axiom keys are sexy.
I fucking hate my Venom keys, but I have no space nor any options.
It also makes pretty sounds once in a while.

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Old 06-02-2014, 12:56 AM   #10
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

I find it awkward getting a 49 key keyboard when im going to be using it on a small ass laptop. ..
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:54 AM   #11
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

I kind of regret getting an 88-keyer. It's too big and has no twiddly knobs or pads. I think a 49-key might even be too big for my purposes. As for mods, you could probably do some cool stuff with a Raspberry Pi if you are into that.
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:00 AM   #12
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

What complicated ass melody would require someone to get an 88 keyer
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

I didn't require it. I just got it so I could play the full range, so anything on piano I wanted.

Turns out I am more interested in using it as a note-input device, so it just kind of takes up way more space than I want now.
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

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What complicated ass melody would require someone to get an 88 keyer
you know, piano players n stuff.


there are musicians out there who use these tools too.

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Old 06-02-2014, 07:34 AM   #15
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

Yeah obviously them of course but in this day in age the modern "EDM" musician would require only 25 keys due to the lack of difficulty in there melodies.
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

49 keys is a good length, gives you enough space to actually use both hands but even that seems limited.
I know I'm going to have to get an 88 key some day or just get another 49 and play them together, cause 49 isn't enough space for some of the things I want to do. If you come from playing piano, more keys definitely helps. I can't stand a tiny keyboard with only two octaves of keys.
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Yeah obviously them of course but in this day in age the modern "EDM" musician would require only 25 keys due to the lack of difficulty in there melodies.
yes thats just enough to bang your head on and hope for a beatport hit.

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Old 06-02-2014, 01:17 PM   #18
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Re: Midi Keyboards and shit

I would consider something else than the oxygen range as they only have usb out. Axioms or Novation Impulses or even Alesis keyboards have midi in/outs which make them much more flexible in the long run. I don't mind a usb only approach to a travel keyboard but for a home studio you're kinda closing future doors.

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Also have you guys modded your own Keyboard, make one from scartch or any random modification to it just for fun. I'm curious to see all the things Midi keyboards can be made to do, with the right modifications.
I've made a midi controller from USB gamepads, but I'd like to get a dedicated midi board to replace the gamepad components. Right now it looks something like:

Gamepad circuit board with my own buttons / knobs attached -> plugged in via usb -> gamepad msg's translated to midi via glovepie -> into DAW via virtual midi.


I bought some real nice pro-grade arcade buttons which are still lying around waiting to be used once I get the midi-board cause I don't like having to always work via glovepie. These are the buttons:

It's gonna be rad if/when it's ever done .

It's a nice easy project to get you started with electronics tinkering.
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i dont need like 8 channels and a christmas light show. i honestly just need 2 upfaders, Low, Hi , MID EQ and thats it. i have a vestax pcv-175 at home but i wanted something more portable
I have the M-Audio X-Session Pro - 40 from Maplin

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