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Old 30-10-2015, 01:02 AM   #21
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Re: Side Chain Compression. Yay!

Yeah man i wouldn't use multiple compressors in series for a side chain pumping effect
Someone more knowledgable than I could correct me if I am wrong but that doesn't seem the place to use compressors in series
You can for sure use serial compression for other applications tho for a more subtle effect but I think in the case of getting a side chain style pump going it's the opposite of what you want!

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Old 30-10-2015, 02:08 AM   #22
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Re: Side Chain Compression. Yay!

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Yeah man i wouldn't use multiple compressors in series for a side chain pumping effect
Someone more knowledgable than I could correct me if I am wrong but that doesn't seem the place to use compressors in series
You can for sure use serial compression for other applications tho for a more subtle effect but I think in the case of getting a side chain style pump going it's the opposite of what you want!
It seems to be working for me, the reason I do that is to get a ton of gain reduction for a tiny amount of signal that goes over the threshold

The reason I feel the need to do this is because I really don't trust ableton's native equipment to a fairly good job in obtaining the sound I am searching for

And I was just thinking that some one/ company would design a better compressor that handles ducking somewhat better

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Why do you not use one compressor and crank up the ratio?

Seems that you successively compress your peaks and by the third time you probably are looking at a hard clipper effect, which will distort the compressed signal. Listen to your side gain out and see if that's going on.

Just adjust threshold and ratio until you get enough reduction.

I do not get any distortion because each compressor is only working to compress a small amount of gain for a larger total gain.

When I crank up the ratio on just one I don't get the amount of gain reduction I am looking for (comparing recorded audio to samples from packs I have bought that have ducking effect)

I don't trust ableton's native audio tools because each one I work with seems to have some sort of undesired effect

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Re: Side Chain Compression. Yay!

FabFilter Pro MB does a fine job.
Also Ozone's compressor.
Are you sending the side gain signal with enough gain?

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Are you sending the side gain signal with enough gain?
^This!

I think this might be your issue, Bergnermd. Also, use short and transient types of ghost "kick" in order to really play with the compressor sustain.

If you use your kick (and not a ghost kick) you can highpass + saturate the kick before going to key/side input of your compressor.

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I don't trust ableton's native audio tools because each one I work with seems to have some sort of undesired effect

Honestly, one compressor is enough and if you don't manage to get the right sound with the Ableton compressor I think you're doing something wrong as the stock compressors work just fine.

Try some of the other suggestions people made such as ghost kick for sidechain as that allows you to modify all kinds of parameters such as note length without it affecting your actual kick drum.

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