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Old 25-06-2014, 09:18 PM   #1
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Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

Basically i dont have my midi keys.but i read you could use a qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard in sonar x3,however i have tried a bunch of things and suggestions i found but none of them work.
can anyone point me in the right direction?i have had no luck with my Google searches.
any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 25-06-2014, 09:41 PM   #2
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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

I know it works in Reaper fairly easily, SonarX3 no clue.
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Old 25-06-2014, 10:02 PM   #3
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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

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Basically i dont have my midi keys.but i read you could use a qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard in sonar x3,however i have tried a bunch of things and suggestions i found but none of them work.
can anyone point me in the right direction?i have had no luck with my Google searches.
any help would be greatly appreciated!
I know tim exile uses one on his live setup. Maybe look into that?

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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

Tim Exile is using Reaktor though, which automatically has qwerty keyboard MIDI, albeit with plenty of latency.
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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

It normally comes from your daw. If your daw doesn't have it then you need a virtual midi keyboard program. Here is a free one: vmpk.sourceforge.net/ (I'm sorry I can't link fully so put h t t p : / / in front ).

This link was recommended by a Sonar X3 user on another forum.
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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

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before. Glovepie acts as a translator that sits between the qwerty keyboard and your DAW. You basically have a setup like this:

KEYBOARD -> GLOVEPIE IN -> GENERATES MIDI -> MIDI OUT TO A VIRTUAL MIDI DRIVER AND IN TO YOUR DAW.

Considering the pics I've seen of your gear Rixtr - I can't imagine why you'd want to fiddle with a qwerty midi layout rather than just get a cheap used midi keyboard. Even one of the akai mini 25 keys or something you could pick up for a few dollars used.

It gets a bit annoying always having to first open glovepie whenever you want to have a midi keyboard available. Doesn't one of your hardware synths have an unused midi-out port that you could connect to your interface?
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Re: using a spare qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard?

Thanks for the replies,i only have my laptop to work with right now.
and no money or power supplies for my boards,thats why i am trying this.
i have loopb1 for midi,and sonar recognizes it,but i still cant make the qwerty a control surface.
I have tried a couple different virtual keyboard's but none work,including one thats supposed to work with sonar.dunno,maybe i don't get how the routing works?
scyn,i will give that a try thanks.
really sucks i cant set up my normal studio gear.
oh an and upsides ima try that one as well!

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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

I have seen one of these for 30 bucks


Thinking about getting one and using it instead of the hulking mass of a keyboard I have now.
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

Actually scratch that one, this one is 88 keys and usb


Just saw it at 11 bucks.
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

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Actually scratch that one, this one is 88 keys and usb

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Just saw it at 11 bucks.
that looks pretty cool!
i just have to wait till the 3rd to get paid and have str8 ship up some of my stuff,wich he was kind enough to grab and hold for me.im just itching to make some tracks.
However it does work in FL studio,but the 64 bit plugins are a bit dodgy,so i will have to use the 32 bit as well.at least it's somthing,it's how i started anyway,renoise and my laptop.
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

All I know is that FL Studio can do it out of the box. Read the FL Studio manual. Other than that, it seems like the NanoKEY2 by KORG is just as bad/(good?) as QWERTY keys and you could get one used for really cheap.

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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

As far as qwerty in FL Studio, there was someone that created a huge amount of scales (several hundred) for qwerty templates and posted them in the Image Line forum. All you have to do is select the desired scale and all of the keys are remapped to only be in that scale. I have three keyboards 49 and 32 keys, but I find that I use qwerty mostly now because of the scale selection. I imagine that I would use the keyboards more if I was classically trained though. As it is, I'm not that great at keyboarding- barely ok at most. I've learned a lot of theory. I've had carpal tunnel problems for years, and I can't see myself properly using a keyboard.
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

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I have seen one of these for 30 bucks

Thinking about getting one and using it instead of the hulking mass of a keyboard I have now.
Thats awesome WANT ONE
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As far as qwerty in FL Studio, there was someone that created a huge amount of scales (several hundred) for qwerty templates and posted them in the Image Line forum. All you have to do is select the desired scale and all of the keys are remapped to only be in that scale. I have three keyboards 49 and 32 keys, but I find that I use qwerty mostly now because of the scale selection. I imagine that I would use the keyboards more if I was classically trained though. As it is, I'm not that great at keyboarding- barely ok at most. I've learned a lot of theory. I've had carpal tunnel problems for years, and I can't see myself properly using a keyboard.
I searched that forum today and had no luckany chance you know the link?
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

I'm sorry, it was just a forum link. The files are housed at Image Line's forum. I'll see what I can find and be right back. A few minutes of memory jogging and I'm sure I'll find something relating to it.
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Re: Using a spare QWERTY keyboard as a midi keyboard?

Heh, I'm back. I remembered his name and couldn't find the complete pack on the forum, but I did find his website, and he has the pack there for download. The address to that page is:

h t t p : / / w w w . cafebeatpub.com/fl/ultimatetypingkeyboard.aspx

Sorry for the mangled link, but I can't post links yet.
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cool beans man! thanks for the link!!!:victory:
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You're welcome. I saw your post in the other place, but you seemed happy with the answer that was provided. I didn't think that answer was what you were looking for though. You asked how to get it and the answer was how to use it. Hopefully, it works well for you. The layouts are great. I think that's why I use them so much. You can tell if a note is higher or lower by key placement with no exceptions. I'm not sure why, but they are very musical layouts. I may write one for myself for figuring out chord progressions.
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You're welcome. I saw your post in the other place, but you seemed happy with the answer that was provided. I didn't think that answer was what you were looking for though. You asked how to get it and the answer was how to use it. Hopefully, it works well for you. The layouts are great. I think that's why I use them so much. You can tell if a note is higher or lower by key placement with no exceptions. I'm not sure why, but they are very musical layouts. I may write one for myself for figuring out chord progressions.
yeah thanks again!i never really liked that forum,they seem unhelpful and hostile.
i never had a question answered,all i got was rtfm,when my issue wasn't even in the manual!
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