I'm in the market for a new pair of studio headphones, and am willing to listen to what experience and advice you could share with me. A little info, to clearify things :
I moved for my studies currently to a new place, and this place cannot be modified : I cannot add any acoustic panels on the walls and isolate it in any way. One part of the room is completely glass, so I have a not so good acoustic-sounding room, where i've put my portable studio to make techno in my free time.
I have a pair of KRK Rokit 6 active speakers, which i've been using for the last couple of years, and I find them to be comfortable for electronic music, and getting fast ideas.
HOWEVER, when doing mastering on these monitors with 0 acoustics in the room, the final mixdown turns to be not what I wanted it to be exactly. Also, i'm unable to make music at night because of sensible neighbours.
That's why I'm in the market of a pair of STUDIO headphones. I have an excellent pair of Xone XD-53 for DJ'ing, but they're too heavy on my head, and since they're dj headphones, too bass-heavy as well.
What suggestions do you have ? My main requirement is, that they are light to use on the head (working 3+ hours), and to have sufficient bass frequency for making techno.
for the record, my dad has a pair of Sennheiser HD 280 headphones, which have very good reviews on the net, and sound definitely not bad, but they are very strongly attached when put on your head, and cause me headache when I work for more than an hour.
I don't want to spend more than around 150-160 euros currently, as I'm student and cannot splash the big cash for 300+ headphones :/
P.S. some guys I know recommended me DT770 Pro 250ohm version, any feedback on those ?
I've got the 80 ohm dt770's and they're great, but honestly, unless you're recording vocals or can't have *any* sound spill, you might be better off with semi, or fully open-backed headphones like the 880's or 990's (though both are a bit more expensive) if you want a more accurate representation of the sound, which I assume is the case since you mentioned that you were having trouble specifically with mixing/mastering. I also don't know that they'd be significantly lighter than your dad's headphones. Also, if you're making music on headphones, you probably will be wanting to break regularly to avoid listening fatigue anyway, so I'm not sure there's any overwhelming reason to invest in new headphones for the possibly negligible difference they will provide, unless you have the opportunity to put them on your head before buying to see if they're actually drastically more comfortable (though I guess I should mention the velour padding on the beyerdynamics is pretty damn comfy)
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If by powerful you mean louder, the opposite is true, higher impedance models need more signal to reach the same output level! but, like I said, if you're looking for more accurate monitoring, and a realistic representation of the sound, you should really be looking at semi, or open-backed models.
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I really love my AKG 702s (same as 701s except for their aesthetic design). Sennheiser make great headphones and I see them recommend around electronic music forums in particular. But there are lots of great options. I've heard fantastic things about the Focal Spirits as well, but they are closed back and as peguinoid stated, you'll want open back headphones if a little noise spillage isn't a concern.
When it comes to impedance, consider your sound source. If you want to use say, your iphone or mp3 player, lower impedance is better. If you will be using a headphone amplifier, go higher impedance, like 600 Ohms. Running direct out of an audio interface, if you are mixing with quite a bit of headroom, you may find 250 Ohms impedance to be soft.
I will second thinking about whether or not you need closed or open back headphones in making your decision. I needed closed back because my "studio" space is noisey sometimes.
I see. Well I will be powering my headphones via my Motu Ultralite sound interface, would that be sufficient? And all in all, I prefer closed ones in general, simply used to that because of DJ headphones and I like to exclude myself completely from the world, when making music, I guess.
anyway, if open is way better, then I believe, then i would go for that.
Edit: why am I not allowed to thank you guys ? I mean, there's no button or anything. Is it due to my post count?
And all in all, I prefer closed ones in general, simply used to that because of DJ headphones and I like to exclude myself completely from the world, when making music, I guess.
is there a lot of noise in the room you work in? the advantages to closed headphones would be if you record vocals or actual physical instruments (you haven't mentioned it so I'll assume not?) or if you are in a noisy environment and actually need to be closed off from outside noise, or are planing to listen on them in public or with your significant other sleeping in the same room.
If none of those is the case, you are sacrificing a good stereo image for sound isolation.
Honestly I don't think closed back or open back really matters as you'll still need to check your mix on speakers to get an accurate representation of the stereo field. Sure open backed can, in some cases, mimic this but it's not going to get you all the way there by any means.
I use the M50's and find them a bit hyped in both the lows and the top end. I wouldn't dare make anything public after mixing anything down on those only but I'm thinking this would be the case with any pair of studio quality cans due to the stereo field issue I mentioned.
The biggest issue I've encountered when mixing with little speakers pressed to my ears isn't accuracy but width.
Got a pair of ath - m50x a couple months ago, really amazing producing cans, flat, closed ear, decent sound isolation etc.
They have really nice unique cam lock on their headphone cordS (Comes with 3 different styles) that lock your cord in so it doesnt pop out. This is a small detail but it shows that they put effort into making a quality product. These headphones are commonplace in the industry.
For mixing, ATH-m50 headphones are much better than low-mid level studio monitors in an untreated room - even sub, in my experience. If you don't have the resources or can't modify your acoustic environment, I would recommend headphones over monitors, and DEFINITELY do not buy a subwoofer.
^Whats your opinion on how they translate? Like from the first play of the first reference check?
Highs seemed a little bright but smooth, not too harsh, and the overall frequency spectrum sounded very seperated and detailed. You could hear that the highs were seperated from the mids and seemed to take up a different space in the stereo image.
The imaging is pretty damn good too but not the best I have ever heard. Still better than monitors in an untreated room where you will get phasing. I use the m50's for any micro/ detail work like subtle reverb / delays or any stereo fine tuning.