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Old 26-03-2012, 05:49 AM   #1
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How should we judge idm/edm?

Just curious what people listen for when they hear a new idm tune or any electronic music for that matter. For me, its really whether or not I can move to it or feel it. But I pay a lot of attention to drums, production value, and creativity. What does the idm community think?

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Old 26-03-2012, 06:44 AM   #2
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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

I judge music on weather or not it takes me somewhere in my head. Seems weird but honestly if it does take me anywhere emotionally I have no connection to it.
I mean production value, and creativity are definitely things I look for but a song can be technically good but lackluster if it doesn't have that emotional thing I can't exactly get behind it.
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I judge on whether I like it or not.

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Old 26-03-2012, 07:08 AM   #4
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I judge on whether I like it or not.
Thats one way of putting it.
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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

Yes ultimately I judge whether I like it or not, but I'm trying to figure out what makes me reach that decision. I also don't think its as black and white as liking and disliking. Songs fall on a scale from timeless masterpieces to something I would never want to hear again. There's a whole bunch of songs I listen to that sound better to me at different points in my life as well. I suppose this thread title was a bit misleading. I'm trying to find out what makes a song likable.
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Old 26-03-2012, 07:41 AM   #6
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Yes ultimately I judge whether I like it or not, but I'm trying to figure out what makes me reach that decision. I also don't think its as black and white as liking and disliking. Songs fall on a scale from timeless masterpieces to something I would never want to hear again. There's a whole bunch of songs I listen to that sound better to me at different points in my life as well. I suppose this thread title was a bit misleading. I'm trying to find out what makes a song likable.
What I said then.
I guess what it comes down is your personal taste and what is important to you in a song. For some people that's technical ability. For others an amazing melody.
It can also be because of genre preference. For instance, some people prefer more minimal pieces as opposed to complex, while another may favor a complex sound over a minimal one.
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Old 26-03-2012, 07:55 AM   #7
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I'm trying to find out what makes a song likable.
Trying to find the magic formula huh ? But seriously though - with so many different songs incorporating so many different elements it's going to be a tough task to point at something and say: "ok - that right there is what makes a song likeable". You could probably spend time combing over a particular song and identify what you like about that song, but to figure out what makes a song likeable...

So I guess the answer of what makes a song likeable is going to be too specific to that particular tune (drum pattern, melody etc.) to be applied to songs in general.
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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

I look out for cliches...I want to know if the artist just runs his drums through dblue glitch more than 10 times in a single tune or if he is a good sound designer.

There´s nothing that attracts my attention more than well-designed atmospheres. Loading a patch in Absynth or Omnisphere and calling it a day is pretty mediocre in my book, so if the EDM/IDM musician does it, he loses credibility in my eyes.

Of course, the musicianship is important as well. Anyone playing the same chord progression for 4 minutes can´t be taken seriously.
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Old 26-03-2012, 12:27 PM   #9
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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

Whether it makes me interested throughout. It doesn't necessarily matter that much if it's pleasurable, as long as it's interesting. Deriving pleasure is just a matter of taste, which is often acquired. If it is interesting, people with the "correct" taste will probably enjoy it.

I don't tend to care about production techniques as long as the track fulfills the interesting part. Mostly because if I'm focusing on the melodies and the ambience, I won't have time to think what they used to make that sweeper or whatever. I only start to care about that stuff when the track isn't that interesting. Or when someone specifically asks for feedback about their production.

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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

Most people like music because it evokes memory for which they have some emotional investment, whether that is directly (the track playing in the background when you received your first BJ) or indirectly (the track is retro 80's but was made last week and kinda reminds you of..." ", during that period in your life when..." ").

However I'll judge IDM on originality of creativity or shear audacity of self expression, ie. its clear the producer really doesn't give a fuck about what I or anybody else thinks, but, this is very rare, as letting people hear your music is an exercise on vanity, and the creation thereof is self indulgent wankery. If your music reeks of—looking for approval—then i'm unlikely to be interested in it.

To be an artist you must have something to say, otherwise youre just a craftsmen.

I can appreciate craft but I'm looking for art when I listen to IDM.


Bare in mind I am distingishing between IDM and Dance music in general, Dance music, ie. Techno, House, D&B etc. its job is to move a dance floor, that is its primary role, so that is what I would judge that music on. IDM on the other hand is supposed to be more than dance floor fodder, it should stimulate something deep in ones psyche, IDM should evoke a sense of wonder.

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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

arbitrarily.

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Re: How should we judge idm/edm?

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Yes ultimately I judge whether I like it or not, but I'm trying to figure out what makes me reach that decision. I also don't think its as black and white as liking and disliking. Songs fall on a scale from timeless masterpieces to something I would never want to hear again. There's a whole bunch of songs I listen to that sound better to me at different points in my life as well. I suppose this thread title was a bit misleading. I'm trying to find out what makes a song likable.

I decided whether I like it or not based on whether I like it or not! :V

Everyone's different. There won't be one magic thing that makes a song 'good.' And sure it's definitely not black and white... some backs have great technicality and shitty production, or great production but really simple musicianship...

And it can change. I used to hate extreme metal... now it can't be extreme enough for me.

Overall don't worry about it too much, just enjoy what you enjoy and keep an open mind...

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