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Old 13-02-2014, 12:27 AM   #1
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Guitar Pedal Question

So I recently got a Behringer fuzz pedal. Now I know most will say Behringer isn't a very good brand, but it was new and under $20 so I figured "why not?" However, it doesn't appear to work fully. My clean signal plays through the pedal, but it doesn't light up and turn on. Before you again may jump to the conclusion about Behringer's brand status, lemme just say that I was uhhh... being stupid, and plugged in a different adapter than the standard pedal adapter. This wouldn't have like, "fried" anything internal, would it? And if so, how would I know? My only other guess as to why it's not working might be because it makes a rather loud clicking noise when I push down on the pedal, maybe because the metal spring inside is loose? (Like, it fits perfectly into the slot, but it's not actually attached - I can take the spring out).

Again, for the price, it's not a huge loss, but yeah. Maybe it's just a matter of buying another, proper adapter.

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Old 13-02-2014, 12:38 AM   #2
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

If it's pushing more voltage than the parts in the pedal are rated for, then yeah it can fry a part or two.

Try it with a battery? For 20 bones, you could just open the thing up and see if anything is physically burned out. If it's a capacitor or a resistor, those are usually pretty easy to find and solder in there.
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

What are the specifications of the wrong adapter? Check the voltage and the polarity (center negative or positive) and check what your pedal demands.
It might be you fried it if the polarity was switched, not sure how sensitive does things are. Putting a lower voltage than required shouldn't damage it (that's the same as using empty batteries).

Guitar pedals usually make a pretty loud clicking noise so that could be normal.
With the spring you mean the thing that holds up the button? That one can also be removed usually.


edit: this is the sign you are looking for if you want to check the polarity btw


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Old 13-02-2014, 12:44 AM   #4
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

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So I recently got a Behringer fuzz pedal.
Well there's yr problem.

Seriously, though, Behringer use shitty components, and whilst most bits of gear will have some way to protect itself from user stupidity, these don't (Apart from the higher end stuff).

You can debug it easy enough by making a simple "Multimeter" out of an LED and a resistor. Does the pedal work with a battery still? Behringer stuff is all SMD, so good luck fixing it yourself.
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Old 13-02-2014, 01:07 AM   #5
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If it's pushing more voltage than the parts in the pedal are rated for, then yeah it can fry a part or two.

Try it with a battery? For 20 bones, you could just open the thing up and see if anything is physically burned out. If it's a capacitor or a resistor, those are usually pretty easy to find and solder in there.
Well, the clean signal comes through with a battery, but the pedal doesn't seem to turn on the effects.

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Old 13-02-2014, 01:18 AM   #6
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

Well what does the adapter you used say about it's voltage? If you plugged say a 12 volt adatper into a 9 volt pedal, it's probably goodbye pedal, and also what Inertia mentioned about polarity would affect it having sound or not (though I'm not sure that would really fry something, but it's possible)...my best guess is that a cap or resistor burned out, but really instead of throwing it out or putting it into a closet for the rest of your life, try to open it up and see what the issue is if you can, and go from there.
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Old 13-02-2014, 01:41 AM   #7
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Well what does the adapter you used say about it's voltage? If you plugged say a 12 volt adatper into a 9 volt pedal, it's probably goodbye pedal, and also what Inertia mentioned about polarity would affect it having sound or not (though I'm not sure that would really fry something, but it's possible)...my best guess is that a cap or resistor burned out, but really instead of throwing it out or putting it into a closet for the rest of your life, try to open it up and see what the issue is if you can, and go from there.
Yeah, I probably fucked myself over... The thing is, I don't really know how to fix this sort of thing supposing it's a "goodbye" pedal. I ordered some
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Old 13-02-2014, 02:01 AM   #8
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

One thing to keep in mind, a couple of Behringer pedals I've bought have come pre-broken. You mightn't even have bollocksed it, it may already have been. Best thing you can do is throw it at your enemy and move on.
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Old 13-02-2014, 02:19 AM   #9
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

Yeah I'm with the Behringer bashing gang unfortunately ... I've used different adaptaters for stuff it never fucked them up like that ...

The upside is it was a cheap lesson not to buy pedals from them again.

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Old 13-02-2014, 02:25 AM   #10
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

On the flipside, it was from eBay, so who knows. Maybe the seller just gave me a shit deal.

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Old 13-02-2014, 03:15 AM   #11
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

Just out of curiosity was it the Superfuzz? I'm reading the specs for it and it asks for 9v...so I'd guess either the polarity was flipped on your adapter or the pedal was not functional before you got it.
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Just out of curiosity was it the Superfuzz? I'm reading the specs for it and it asks for 9v...so I'd guess either the polarity was flipped on your adapter or the pedal was not functional before you got it.
Yep, Super Fuzz SF300. The adapter definitely was the wrong one, but I'm gonna be honest: I got two other Behringer pedals and stupidly used the adapter and those pedals both work fine now (never plugging that adapter in again!) so I really don't see why it would make a difference on the fuzz pedal. I'm probably just gonna try and return it on eBay, but I wouldn't be surprised if the guy said no... Not sure if I should mention the adapter thing, hah.

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Old 13-02-2014, 03:53 AM   #13
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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

Okay, I did not expect this. Things worked themselves out well: The guy gave me a refund and said not even to worry about shipping the pedal back to him. This gives me the ability to look into the problem more, so I'm incredibly grateful. If I can't solve this, I MAY get another Behringer fuzz pedal just because they're cheap, but I might instead opt for a Danelectro.

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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

hey now...easy on the behri-bashing...
I have an ada-800 and that thing sounds like a lynx aroura or a rosetta...that being said, most stuff that company makes is crap...

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Re: Guitar Pedal Question

Have you tried flipping the polarity?

If a pedal says "needs 9v" it needs 9v. Also check the Amperage requirements (there you can go higher values without much worrying). Some pedals work with a bit more voltage, but...(wait for it)...Behringer is shit. Don't buy Behringer shit (sorry, TaylorFrank).

There are much better alternatives, and I'm not talking boutique pedals. Decent Proco, T-Rex, Ibanez/Maxon, Boss, MXR, Coron, etc etc will work. Used is cheaper. If you like/can, you can even make something great yourself (DIY) with BuildYourOwnClone, GeneralGuitarGadgets (I like the swedish MoodySounds.com).

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There are much better alternatives, and I'm not talking boutique pedals. Decent Proco, T-Rex, Ibanez/Maxon, Boss, MXR, Coron, etc etc will work. Used is cheaper. If you like/can, you can even make something great yourself (DIY) with BuildYourOwnClone, GeneralGuitarGadgets (I like the swedish MoodySounds.com).
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I agree. I think Boss has the toughest pedals out there, and the Ibanez tube screamer series is an affordable industry standard. Dan Electro is kind of low grade and it's probably going to come in a plastic casing.

Don't overlook multi effects pedals, either. They offer a lot of flexibility and sonic tweaking opportunities. I'd take one crappy multi over 2 - 4 crappy standalone pedals any day. If I'm actually playing guitar I like the good/boutique stuff, but for producing sometimes the shittiest pedals yield the best results.

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That Korg power supply is AC. You need DC for pedals. Oopsie. Fried for sure.
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the Ibanez tube screamer series is an affordable industry standard.
It may be over there but it certainly isn't over here. At about 3 times the price of an SD-1 it's not for everyone.

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Don't overlook multi effects pedals, either. They offer a lot of flexibility and sonic tweaking opportunities. I'd take one crappy multi over 2 - 4 crappy standalone pedals any day. If I'm actually playing guitar I like the good/boutique stuff, but for producing sometimes the shittiest pedals yield the best results.
The problem I've found in the past with a lot of multifx is that there's a delay or even sometime dropout when switching banks or patches which is awful for live.
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It may be over there but it certainly isn't over here. At about 3 times the price of an SD-1 it's not for everyone.
The later issue tube screamers are indeed pricey, but some of the earlier versions can be had for a lot less. TS1s can be had for less than $50, although I've never tried one myself. Still, I'd rather roll the dice with one of those instead of a behringer/dan electro/whathaveyou. Also, other less famous Ibanez pedals aren't quite as much.

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The problem I've found in the past with a lot of multifx is that there's a delay or even sometime dropout when switching banks or patches which is awful for live.
That's probably true on some of them, but not all of them. I used the Boss GT series for years and it wasn't much of an issue. For resampling / producing, I typically pick one patch and mess with the parameters live while recording so it's not a big issue for me. I just think there's a lot of bang for the buck with the multis. All things equal, I'd rather have boutique everything but that can add up quickly.

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That Korg power supply is AC. You need DC for pedals. Oopsie. Fried for sure.
No. The input is AC, the output 9V DC.

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