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Old 04-12-2012, 05:30 PM   #1
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Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

Guys this has been bugging me for a while so I thought it's best to ask the lads in the know.

If I import a mono sample to cubase, eg. a kick sample into a project thats being exported as stereo, does the kick stay in mono after rendering, or does it become stereo during exportation via some voodoo magic?

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Old 04-12-2012, 05:32 PM   #2
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

stays mono

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Old 04-12-2012, 05:34 PM   #3
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

Nice one, I can put my mind at ease now
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:21 PM   #4
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

Just to clarify for anyone else this might confuse....mono will never, ever ever ever ever evar be able to be turned into stereo. You can use all sorts of fakery and phase this delay that, but it will never ever ever ever happen. Ever.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:23 PM   #5
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

Yeah. What Numerical said. Once something goes mono in a signal chain there ain't no going back to stereo. I always think about it like Play-Doh, each channel is a different color. Once you put those two channels together (mono) you won't be able to get the colors separated again.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:23 PM   #6
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

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Just to clarify for anyone else this might confuse....mono will never, ever ever ever ever evar be able to be turned into stereo. You can use all sorts of fakery and phase this delay that, but it will never ever ever ever happen. Ever.
wait what??

duplicate a mono channel and put a horse on the right channel and then its stereo

wait what??

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:25 PM   #7
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

off topic, but this might be interesting,

when sounds are produced in real life, can there be mono and stereo?

I dont mean speakers I mean real things like from a flute to dropping plates to farting btw.

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It sounds like two records playing at once .
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

everything is surround sound

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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

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wait what??

duplicate a mono channel and put a horse on the right channel and then its stereo

wait what??
Ok that one horse thing. ONE TIME, PEEOPLE.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:37 PM   #10
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

well as an example, your mouth is mono as it only has one output device and channel, it's only the sound waves bouncing off other surfaces that are multi channel in perception as each bounce of an individual channel sound and only allowed to be perceived as stereo/surround because you have multi channel hearing.... but we could be anal and say it's all just an experience of things going on on every level to infinity and it's just how we perceive and process that information, but that's for the hippies
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

wait but a vase smashing on the floor... the sound from the source pretty much travels equally in all directions but it is one sound source

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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

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wait but a vase smashing on the floor... the sound from the source pretty much travels equally in all directions but it is one sound source

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

IKR?

but wait, according to , even though the sound travels in all directions it is still only a mono voiced sound,


but if lets say... i were to drop 2 vases at once, and they were exactly the same and in same exactl room enviroments, would those two make the sound stereo...?

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It sounds like two records playing at once .
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

I would say we humans (with two ears) percieve sound as binaural. Yes, a sound source can be "mono", but the Haas, reverb, ambience, HTRF (etc, etc) makes it stereo (or "surround").
If you only have one functioning ear, then maybe it will be mono.

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Old 04-12-2012, 10:45 PM   #14
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

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wait but a vase smashing on the floor... the sound from the source pretty much travels equally in all directions but it is one sound source

HMMMMMMMMMMMM
it is all individual sound sources or channels - every little piece that hits the floor is one mono sound, every crack from the ceramic is a one channel sound. it's when put all together our two "stereo" ears coupled with the activity of each soundwave produced and it's activity in traveling to our two ears that allows us to perceive the sound in a spacial way

what i'd like to know is, is there any animal that has more than one ear that hears in mono only without a spacial awareness of source? and i don't mean deaf animals either
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

maybe one with a ear infection or swimmers ear?

...that doesnt sound like the best answer but thats all i got. :victory:

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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

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Just to clarify for anyone else this might confuse....mono will never, ever ever ever ever evar be able to be turned into stereo. You can use all sorts of fakery and phase this delay that, but it will never ever ever ever happen. Ever.
eh wut?

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well as an example, your mouth is mono as it only has one output device and channel, it's only the sound waves bouncing off other surfaces that are multi channel in perception as each bounce of an individual channel sound and only allowed to be perceived as stereo/surround because you have multi channel hearing.... but we could be anal and say it's all just an experience of things going on on every level to infinity and it's just how we perceive and process that information, but that's for the hippies
According to quantum physics, I believe that every sound is technically mono. :ph34r:
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Old 05-12-2012, 02:37 AM   #17
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

^^that's what i said... and in my second post
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

oh ya, i didn't read the whole thread because im a lazy bastard !
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

Imagine if you were born with 3 ears and they each processed sound individually. Maybe we will evolve to have 5.1 hearing. 5 regular ears and a big bass ear.
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Re: Does mono stay mono in stereo export?

For the OP, it becomes stereo, but both channels are identical, so it sounds the same as a mono sound.

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