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Old 02-07-2018, 08:30 AM   #1
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Beat Battle - General Discussion

Hey all, I'm making this thread as a singular point for general BB discussion, ideas, suggestions, ways to improve, complaints, future of the Beat Battles, etc.

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Old 02-07-2018, 02:09 PM   #2
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Nice.


So, I was reading your post in the other thread, and I realize thatI misunderstood what you meant. I actually don’t like the idea of having a recurring sample pool as a backup of sorts. While it might be handy, I think it goes against the spirit of the beat battle. It’s a battle, it’s supposed to be a little brutal the excitement and challenge in finding out what i have to work with is a big part of the appeal for me.

I was suggesting that we have the sample packs be created by everyone instead of just one person, but still have it be new each time. That way, worst case scenario we’ll probably have at least a few varied samples per round.
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I hear what you're saying, and I agree. Perhaps I should clarify what I'm saying... I agree that the pack should be made from contributed samples. There would still be a battle host, but the samples are all submitted by the participants. PrimRily, those will be the ONLY samples we can use. Where the base pack would come into play, or it could just be previous sample packs, is in the event nobody submits any samples. Then, we will have the best battle server up loaded with samples to maybe assemble something as a fall back. Users will generate content, unless in the event that no one generates anything, in which case we can dig into the archive/backup libraries.

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Old 02-07-2018, 09:00 PM   #4
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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

Really this is a smaller point just in extreme/dire situations that helps the host from having to put together a sample pack on their own when no one submits.

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Old 03-07-2018, 12:45 AM   #5
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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

Also, I thought this thread would be a nice place for these types of discussions.

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Old 03-07-2018, 01:31 AM   #6
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Here's a link for the thread requesting the mods to change the freakin' sidebar. Keep posting until we results! (the old sidebar links an old beat battle thread, which was set up for us, AND it was supposed to be updated regularly, which has never been done to my memory, but in any case, we'd much rather just like it to link the the beat battle subforum, so people can find the beat battles easier).

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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

I think to some degree the forum is how it is. Of course I could be totally wrong.

And while I've only contributed to the BB's here and there, I would say a compromise would be previous samples untouched or touched by the winner of x BB could pick out multiple samples over multiple BBs to lessen the new sourcing of it all.

I k ow when I did make stuff, my actual sample library died with an old HDD, I wouldn't have been able to supply new stuff readily or easily. I actually would have just sourced from my own projects but they could be garbo.

I do like this thread idea because ideas can be spewed over multiple BBs more concisely as I'm sure many of us drop the old tgreads pretty quickly.

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Old 13-07-2018, 03:47 AM   #8
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i dunno.. i still think we should just have new sample packs every time. having great samples isn't even the point. just throw in a couple of random loops you have lying around, a couple of one shots, maybe a synth line you recorded once that you're never gonna do anything with and an mp3 rip of a youtube video. Donezo... piece of cake
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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

I think we're both arguing the same point here...

This is really a minor implementation detail, and I don't want to hold this up any more than it has already. I'm much more interested in getting this idea in motion.

Which brings me to the timeline of the beat battles:
  1. The samples should be assembled before the beat battle has been started, that is, before the rules have been laid down.
  2. The beat battle host then will create the rules, and the sample pack will be open.
  3. Participants will use provided samples to create a track. In addition, they will be asked to upload 3-4 samples of their own.
  4. After tracks have been submitted, the voting commences. Votes should probably be due a day or so before the next battle, in order to organize the uploaded samples into a new pack, and allow for the new host to decide on rules for the next battle.
  5. The new host then creates the new battle with a link to the new sample pack, starting the next beat battle.

I'm thinking we keep the 11 days to make the track. The two days after will be held for voting. Samples will be due by the end of the voting period. Then, on the 14th and final day, the new host creates the next beat battle.

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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

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I think we're both arguing the same point here...

This is really a minor implementation detail, and I don't want to hold this up any more than it has already. I'm much more interested in getting this idea in motion.

Which brings me to the timeline of the beat battles:
  1. The samples should be assembled before the beat battle has been started, that is, before the rules have been laid down.
  2. The beat battle host then will create the rules, and the sample pack will be open.
  3. Participants will use provided samples to create a track. In addition, they will be asked to upload 3-4 samples of their own.
  4. After tracks have been submitted, the voting commences. Votes should probably be due a day or so before the next battle, in order to organize the uploaded samples into a new pack, and allow for the new host to decide on rules for the next battle.
  5. The new host then creates the new battle with a link to the new sample pack, starting the next beat battle.

I'm thinking we keep the 11 days to make the track. The two days after will be held for voting. Samples will be due by the end of the voting period. Then, on the 14th and final day, the new host creates the next beat battle.
This sounds like a good plan...


My response was mainly towards bbb, btw
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Old 13-07-2018, 03:41 PM   #11
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Re: Beat Battle - General Discussion

People having the option doesn't mean they have to. And I was by no means the originator of the idea, only replying.

And in the theory reusing a sample in a new group of samples is a new sample pack.

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Old 13-07-2018, 07:49 PM   #12
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i dunno.. i still think we should just have new sample packs every time. having great samples isn't even the point. just throw in a couple of random loops you have lying around, a couple of one shots, maybe a synth line you recorded once that you're never gonna do anything with and an mp3 rip of a youtube video. Donezo... piece of cake
I agree, sample packs should be new samples. I only meant for the sample reuse to be as a last resort, in the case the winner has no samples uploaded by users, and they need to start the battle with something. That's only a specific situation that I was getting at.

But yeah, it'd be like a last resort option, ONLY for the new beat battle host to use in the event a low number of samples are submitted. Or, they could just record more themselves, but I was just getting at this from the angle of lessening the workload.

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Old 13-07-2018, 10:30 PM   #13
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Thanks for keeping this up and running!

The times I participated it was great fun, except that winning as a result of being the only sucker submitting kind of blew. It is, as with all aspects of this forum, a handful of folks that are really into it and those are the regular participants. So, I wouldn’t sweat it too much and make it fun and interesting for those actually participating.

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I keep winning a bunch, has got to stop. Voting to kick me out

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You gotta make like, a purposely bad track lol just take one of the samples and like, time stretch it over 5 minutes.

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I keep winning a bunch, has got to stop. Voting to kick me out

Wouldn't it be better to simply chop off your head?

Or maybe, if you're too squeamish around sharp blades and hooded men, have someone administer some sort of lethal injection

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BB100 should have an actual tangible prize, I think that would be pretty damn stellar. It would get more people participating maybe, and just be a cool anniversary event I think. Nothing too glamorous, but something sorta cool and perhaps useful for music. Liiiike, maybe a teenage engineering pocket operator? Not very expensive and they make sound! Any other ideas are welcome.

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BB100 should have an actual tangible prize, I think that would be pretty damn stellar. It would get more people participating maybe, and just be a cool anniversary event I think. Nothing too glamorous, but something sorta cool and perhaps useful for music. Liiiike, maybe a teenage engineering pocket operator? Not very expensive and they make sound! Any other ideas are welcome.
Oh yea sure.. there should be prizes SAYS THE GUY WHO WINS ALL THE BEAT BATTLES.


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Ok jk.. yea I’m down for prizes. Pocket operator would be dope or some panties signed by Tiesto or something

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