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Classic Cult 07-08-2008 12:48 AM

TMZ gossip about Deadmau5? (aka the official deadmau5 morning glory thread)
 
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Don't let the title fool you. There isn't any musical collaboration going on here. No, but there definitely was SOME collaboration. Awhile ago, I heard of a little mixup between deadmau5 and Marcus Schissow (a trance producer/dj). Apparently, Schissow and a few other big-shot Djs/producers came up with a mock artist named "Deadrat6". The point was to poke fun of deadmau5 because all...and I mean all...of his tracks sound the same. Go ahead and sample some of his bigger tracks. They all have the same "bad loop". None the less. Come to find out that Schissow and mau5 were to dj together at an event, and deadmau5 had no clue he was opening for Schissow in Oslo (or visa versa, it doesn't matter). Come to find out (3 days before the gig) that deadmau5 hated Schissow so much for "deadrat6" that he wouldn't allow Schissow to play at the club. None the less, Schissow had to sit that gig out after he had made arrangements and everything.

Well here comes the juicy part. I was pissed when I heard this. I never liked deadmau5 (except his Jaded track). He's a punk/retart child who messes around on ableton live until he finds a good sound and then repeats it for the next 1000 tracks he produces. Anyways I left him a message on myspace [NOTE** I wrote this before I talked to him -- keep reading **]:

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Hey deadmau5,

Wanted to pitch an e-mail out to you to let you know that practically every track you ever made is a total rehash of the other. Granted, you've probably heard this a million times, I just thought I'd be a million and one. Seriously man, you can stack all your tracks at one time, and they would sound the same! Your beat loops...same. Synths...same. Dj talent...none. Bottom line is you suck. I mean literally, your stuff is horrible. Plus, are you so insecure with yourself that you have to go hide in a mouse suit on stage? The gag isn't even funny any more, it was old the first time around. Not to mention that bullshit you played on Marcus, who the hell do you think you are? Your mixing is train wrecks anyways. I will never, EVER, EVER...play any of your tracks again. Nor would I recommend them to anyone.

Take it easy pal.

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Well, after this, he attempted to try and make fun of me by mass sending this message to everyone on the deadmau5 mailing list. Which was what I hoped for. Then I PMed him back, and asked for a private one on one conversation. We talked for about an hour or so, and I regretted some of the things I said. His argument was that he was in the business entertainment industry and that the demands on him to make music is enormous. I don't doubt that at all. All he wants to do is just make music and get it out there. But there's nasty competition. If deadmau5 wants to make music he likes, thats cool. I understand that now, even from a beginning artist perspective. But there is one thing I pointed out. Once you make it big like that, the ideas you create, the songs you make, the tracks you publish dont become yours anymore. They are a public thing.

There is an old business ideology developed by Kenneth Galbraith. He says that wants are created by those that manufacturer them. For example, deadmau5 creates a track, people LOVE it, and he keeps producing good tracks. Once he produces a "less desirable" track, people get mad at him for not living up to his standard (same thing with dj tiesto and In Search of Sunrise 5). Deadmau5 makes the defense that he can create what ever he desires. He likes making the music that I (and others) consider monotonous. Thats fine, I concede to that point. But you can't make it a defense, simultaneously, that you're in the business entertainment industry, and you're just pumping out tracks to cover demand. You can't mount one up on the other Granted I'm not speaking from experience, but I've seen and read examples like this. If its true that deadmau5 is putting up tracks just to meet demand and pressure and as a result he uses rehashed sounds and beat loops, then I pity him. I feel bad that he's in a position where he has to do that. If he creates the music because he loves to make that "sound" that we all consider monotonous then thats great, he found his own piece of mind in doing that -- it makes him happy. But deadmau5, you can't have both. They are contradictory.

Now I feel bad for the message I sent, it was a little out of line, but I still feel angry at him. I think there is a lesson on both sides of the line. deadmau5 needs to understand he has fans. I think when you get that big you have an obligation to them. I believe that whole heartedly, so I am going to say it again for clarity. When you get as big as deadmau5, you have an obligation to your fans. I don't think he was living up to that obligation. Rehashed songs are not worth it. His claim that he is in the business entertainment industry doesn't help him either. It shows that he isn't here for music...just show...just making a profit. I don't have a problem with artists making a profit off their work, but when profit is the driving force I think there is a conflict of interest. Much of the deadmau5 haters feel that he's just pushing out tracks to make a quick buck; I can sure see that viewpoint. But like I said, if thats all deadmau5 wants to make, then power to him, I don't have a problem with that.
deadmau5 is still pretty cool...

Classic Cult 07-08-2008 12:49 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
ima go drink some beer and try to get his fucking sound...

Broken 07-08-2008 01:26 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
sorry bud but im on his side,

if you wanna make a living in this industry and people are offering you mega bucks to do a version of your "Art" that the MASSES want....so yes ART the masses want and the minority dont want (and are vocal about saying they dont want it) which is fine...but doesnt make them correct in saying his Mass Art is bad.

i would have no qualms doing the same thing to entertain people in a less meaningful way but also make money that would then allow me to have an Alias which was true to my more specialist art.

if you think selling out even exsists and this is not an industry where people use there talents and skill in whatever way they can to help in all sorts of projects...and if you think that people just stick STRONGLY to there single underground nieche & make a living enough to eat and purchase a house etc. then you got another thing coming.

We all work hard for the money, and sometimes we have to work the musical equivalents of 9-5's on projects and alias's which are more a commercial venture than an artistic one to make ends meet....and theres absolutely notihng wrong with that.

And shit Deadmau5 stuff aint exactly pop music is it?

Broken 07-08-2008 01:38 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
Maybe think of it like this, your a Carpenter your amazing with wood and you can make the most Amazing touching sculptures out of wood, and people burst into tears when they see your incredible beautiful wooden masterpieces.....

But your a carpenter, people wont pay you megabucks to sculpt all the time, and a lot of your friends family and neighbours rely on your for simple tables and chairs and they pay you enough to get a loaf and some milk every day...a simple exsistance...

Is this man an evil waster of his own talents a true sellout...wasting his talent making simple tables and chairs for his neighbours and family?

alteredtensions 07-08-2008 07:37 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
I fucking love deadmau5

Brouwers 07-08-2008 07:57 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
Not all deadmau5 tracks are the same, dont wanna compare "the reward is cheese" with "contact". Gr That kind of sound was something that I never heard of before so he was at first pushing the envelopes. Granted, he has alot of simple-tunes like contact, but all that matters it that it's effective on the dancefloors. As for his mixing, I dont really his mixes bad but then again I havent viewed that many mixes of him. Maybe you could point out some.

Classic Cult 07-08-2008 08:09 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
i think he has some new mix out which most of it are his songs...
google it...

hellscion 07-08-2008 08:57 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
ok i just looked around and listened to a lot of deadmau5 songs and yes, they do sound exactly the same... i swear there are far better electronica artists on the internet. on this forum even...

Evelon 07-08-2008 09:13 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
http://djpolaski.blogspot.com/2008/0...-deadmau5.html

Classic Cult 07-08-2008 09:18 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
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Originally Posted by Evelon (Post 142115)

yo dud thats just what i copied and pasted lol

Evelon 07-08-2008 09:19 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
then inform that you quote!

Classic Cult 07-08-2008 09:20 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
oh...ok. lol

Fox 07-08-2008 09:29 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
i'm not really a fan a deadmau5, I have to admit his sound is very clean and it sounds properly mastered.. apart from that, yes, it pretty much sounds the same everytime.
As for the blog quote, to me that guy is just some jealous bastard.

Classic Cult 07-08-2008 09:30 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
seriously what a fucking hater.
ive checked out deadrat6, and he/they suck.
they cant recreate deadmau5's delicious tracks.

Brouwers 07-08-2008 09:41 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
Indeed, that's why I thought. It's different not the same emotion in the songs.

napalmbob 07-08-2008 09:45 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
Who's Deadmau5? No seriously. It's the one name (besides Aphex Twin and Daft Punk) that gets mentioned daily around here and elsewhere. I bet it's either minimal or electro-house. Am I right?



Minimal-electro-house: the new trance.

Triton64 07-08-2008 10:30 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
i f*ing love deadmau5

jakobcreutzfeldt 07-08-2008 10:36 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
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Originally Posted by Broken (Post 142034)
sorry bud but im on his side,

if you wanna make a living in this industry and people are offering you mega bucks to do a version of your "Art" that the MASSES want....so yes ART the masses want and the minority dont want (and are vocal about saying they dont want it) which is fine...but doesnt make them correct in saying his Mass Art is bad.

i would have no qualms doing the same thing to entertain people in a less meaningful way but also make money that would then allow me to have an Alias which was true to my more specialist art.

if you think selling out even exsists and this is not an industry where people use there talents and skill in whatever way they can to help in all sorts of projects...and if you think that people just stick STRONGLY to there single underground nieche & make a living enough to eat and purchase a house etc. then you got another thing coming.

We all work hard for the money, and sometimes we have to work the musical equivalents of 9-5's on projects and alias's which are more a commercial venture than an artistic one to make ends meet....and theres absolutely notihng wrong with that.

And shit Deadmau5 stuff aint exactly pop music is it?

Case in point: Eric Prydz. I can't stand stuff under his name. I can't stand stuff under the name Pryda. But they both bring in the cash. His stuff as Cirez D, though, which is a touch more underground, tends to be sick.


As for Deadmau5, I can't say I've ever heard a full track by him...not my style.

Broken 07-08-2008 10:57 AM

Re: DEADMAU5? why does everybody hate this guy...
 
yeah i dont like his deadmau5 music but i think the guy from that blog is completely twisted in the head if he thinks that is some slur or insult to him? or any of his fucking business whatsoever?

if i paint pictures you dont like and everyone elses likes them and i get rich....you start abusing me...haha its only one thing "Jealousy" which is actually common place in this world and somewhat normalised by the way we justify and discuss it ie: "yeah but all his tracks sound the same thats wrong" ...how is that wrong? food for thought.

I can understand that jealousy between peers groups because theres a personal connection and sometimes a competition between friends and such...but between non producing music consumers and artists from the other side of the globes its a funny phenomenon...why does this happen? Ive read storys about the current generations growing up in the world thinking "they have a right to everything...and not working hard and just thinking things fall into there laps with there god given skill" well god doesnt exsists and if he does he doesnt give a shit....rights dont exsist WE made them up and in the words of George Carlin....there actually more like temporary priveledges given to us by the ones in power, so shit u gotta fight for everything and every scrap you can whilst your still healthy enough and alive enough to do so....morals dont exsist...we made that up,

DJBecks 07-08-2008 11:57 PM

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i wonder where deadmau5 will be 5 years from now, nowhere !


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