Beat Battle Discussion

IO_Madness · 2018-12-12 20:36:36 UTC

OK, I “found” BB78. BB78 I actually hosted, and we ended up reusing the sample library from BB77 because it was huge and we had low turnout for BB77 anyway.

parricide · 2018-12-12 20:50:50 UTC

still not too bad. worth it for what it is.

MFXxx · 2018-12-19 15:37:25 UTC

Here Beat Battle Sample Packs - Index

BB 2.3
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p3PWlRz1gBUlio8U2LR_HtJME6lIuk5Z

BBX
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KxjDfgsMTzp_krR8r4YJ_hbSSJn8P9zy

BBXX (This one was more of a garb samples from a website Ive lost the link to - from lebeux if I recall correctly - wonder how lebeux’s leg is!?)…
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10N85GycirF47d3FuxH2hniIobhFLhzOb
BBX
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KxjDfgsMTzp_krR8r4YJ_hbSSJn8P9zy

Thats me spent me thinks - enjoy.

IO_Madness · 2018-12-19 19:05:36 UTC

@MFXxx, awesome. Thanks man, I’ll add them to the archive.

IO_Madness · 2018-12-20 03:21:41 UTC

BB Archive updated: https://tinyurl.com/ybazcwth

bfk · 2018-12-22 07:54:30 UTC

hey guys, just making sure you see this so that your not blindsided so please come and chime in with your opinions

Creepr · 2018-12-22 08:29:53 UTC

So I thought I had quite a few you were missing, but that was based on the list above and not the actual archive. anywho, I have 54, which is not yet in the archive. Shall I Gdrive it and share a link?

parricide · 2018-12-22 13:34:58 UTC

awesome! thanks!

IO_Madness · 2018-12-23 07:39:43 UTC

Dahhh yes sir! I will happily add it to the archive.

IO_Madness · 2018-12-23 09:23:03 UTC

Alright, so I made a reply to bfk’s thing:

But I kinda wanted to bring the discussion on sample sourcing and making sure things aren’t copyrighted over here. Basically, to get a release, we need to make sure samples aren’t copyrighted. Officially, they’re not supposed to be, but I suspect that likely there has been copyrighted material that has slipped in in the past.

I see a couple of solutions to this problem:

Quality checking/review of sample packs before release
Obtaining licensing to sample libraries
We could also add some disclaimer on every beat battle stating that samples must be copyright free, and that by offering a battle pack you certify the samples are sourced from fair-use sources and/or originally recorded.

What are your guys’/gals’(?) thoughts?

Trebesch · 2018-12-23 09:48:06 UTC

I’ve always made a point to record my own samples or use samples free to use for whatever purpose. I think we can all trust each other not to use copyright material, but a disclaimer could help drill that in for members that only pop by every now and then.

bfk · 2018-12-23 10:29:39 UTC

A disclaimer/ammendment to the rules about using creative commons or whatever the legal term is for being able to use and modify samples for free, would probably be best…

parricide · 2018-12-23 13:12:57 UTC

i agree with this.
the copy ‘n’ paste part of the rules could include something that pins the blame on the sample provider if they provide protected content, and could make it clear that by uploading their own content they give permission for the sounds to be used royalty free. that would make people make extra sure that they know their samples are royalty free.
a simple block of text is usually all you need to cover your ass with this kind of thing.

IO_Madness · 2018-12-23 18:51:24 UTC

Definitely, we need something like this. I realized that when i was making the latest battle, and I was like, “what needs to go in here?”, that is, just some sort of pre-written list of rules and guidelines that can be used by hosts when they’re making the battles.

Our countdown clock site seems to have gone away too, I suppose we’ll just paste time info and deadlines and all stuff for now.

bfk · 2018-12-23 19:44:24 UTC

Imo we should ammend the overall BB rules as soon as possible with the “only using free samples that permits people to modify and distribute however a person sees fit” or whatever legalese needed and maybe put the rules/legalese in a stickied thread in the bb section of the forum (something that all bb participants can see) and start archiving the winning tracks for each bb after the legalese ammendment, as for the previous bb winners pre-idmf reincarnation it’ll be really hard to track down and find said tracks and it’s likely the tracks in question have been deleted, it just would be easier to start from scratch… for the best of the beat battles release

also did a thingy concerning the general rules

is that ok? also anyone wanna help drafting up a legal statement/disclaimer that covers;

also point out if i’m missing something that needs to be covered

bfk · 2018-12-24 10:58:39 UTC

Also after the holidays I’ll start synthesizing myself some samples and make a pack for everyone that can be used for some of the future beat battlea I’ll post it the sample archive thread sometime in January and

***** by sharing my sample pack i xvf thereby give my consent to freely use the samples I provided for the purposes of making and distributing music and acknowledge that all of my samples that I’ve uploaded are made by me and that I solely am responsible for the samples that I’ve provided in only my sample pack

Xvf *****

parricide · 2018-12-24 18:14:11 UTC

The term you are looking for is creative commons zero.
https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/

Im sure there are other countdown widgets we could use

IO_Madness · 2018-12-25 01:20:20 UTC

Essentially the point is that either they are not under any copyright, or if they are, they are under a copyright that we can legally use them under.

IO_Madness · 2019-01-01 02:28:21 UTC

Here’s the links I had dug up for the Beat Battles tracks before the old site went down.
Some of them have gone missing since I recorded them. Note, not all of these were actually winning tracks, as a lot of the older battle winning tracks were no longer linked properly, so in those cases I went for a track I simply liked (we were hoping to use these as a Beat Battle best of release of some sort). As is, the more recent battles are more likely actual winning tracks, but older ones may be a toss up. They all are, however, legitimate entries.

https://tinyurl.com/y75kgct8

IO_Madness · 2019-01-12 18:41:23 UTC

Hey so, before the site crashed we were talking about doing something special for BB100, which is kinda sorta soon-ish somewhat, with a potential small prize or something for the winner, up to even having a larger battle with an extended deadline to make some serious tracks.

I’m open to whatever, doing something, I like the idea of it, even if it’s just a small pocket synth operator or something to the winner (of course, we’d need to find some people to pitch for it, I’d be willing to throw in for a small prize).

What say ye?