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Old 18-01-2014, 12:29 PM   #21
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Sure! Look at what evolution brought to the table.
yeh well i played guitar 10 years and though i can play amazing guitar i cant create sht lol

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Old 18-01-2014, 01:20 PM   #22
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yeh well i played guitar 10 years and though i can play amazing guitar i cant create sht lol
ok lol I give up lol

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Old 18-01-2014, 01:31 PM   #23
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ok lol I give up lol
i guess so should i lol...waste another 10 years and come up still with nothing..i obviously dont have any real musical talent lol...
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Re: How do u come up with quality catchy melodies?

Visited a friend last night and had a bit of a go through some sounds on Omnishere...
I found it very inspiring to use sounds I don't normally use or haven't used in ages and a new idea came with almost everything I tried.

Great ingredients can inspire great cooking and great food, but obviously it's not so easy if you're a terrible cok.
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Great ingredients can inspire great cooking and great food, but obviously it's not so easy if you're a terrible cok.
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sample from what song? or he created it? If he created it still counts as created melody
from some 70s spanish record
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Old 18-01-2014, 02:38 PM   #29
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from some 70s spanish record
really haha i never knew that

can u link me it?

thats an idea though if u stuck for melodies get some old tune and then make electronic track form it
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Old 18-01-2014, 03:42 PM   #30
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Re: How do u come up with quality catchy melodies?

I have very few strengths when it comes to music, but catchy melodies I can do.

Basically, I get a melody in my head and then transfer it to Ableton. If it's catchy enough to enter my head, then it's catchy enough to get into everybody's head.

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Old 18-01-2014, 04:05 PM   #31
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I have very few strengths when it comes to music, but catchy melodies I can do.

Basically, I get a melody in my head and then transfer it to Ableton. If it's catchy enough to enter my head, then it's catchy enough to get into everybody's head.
catchy melodies or unique melodies is my problem.

ON a related note and without trying to promote myself (i cant post to many threads in listneing booth).

I just found this track i made 4 years or so ago when 1st experimenting with reason and quite enjoyed it. My music making ability is decent just not melodies yet.

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Old 18-01-2014, 04:24 PM   #32
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Re: How do u come up with quality catchy melodies?

I know that some people just kinda learn to play an instrument outside of music theory. But Im really confused on how youve (succesfully?) played guitar for 10 years and cant come up with a meloday??? Even if you have only been playing other peoples music by ear for 10 years how can you not just noodle around in your daw/midi keyboard or hum up a melody and get that turned into MIDI?

I wish I had 10 years of guitar playing under my belt, I imagine Id be light years ahead of what I am able to pull off at the moment.

All I do is noodle around my MIDI keyboard and record the start to a melody, maybe like 8 bars or something. Then I kinda work up some other elements around it. Then try to push the melody further, then the other elements.

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Old 18-01-2014, 04:26 PM   #33
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I know that some people just kinda learn to play an instrument outside of music theory. But Im really confused on how youve (succesfully?) played guitar for 10 years and cant come up with a meloday??? Even if you have only been playing other peoples music by ear for 10 years how can you not just noodle around in your daw/midi keyboard or hum up a melody and get that turned into MIDI?

I wish I had 10 years of guitar playing under my belt, I imagine Id be light years ahead of what I am able to pull off at the moment.

All I do is noodle around my MIDI keyboard and record the start to a melody, maybe like 8 bars or something. Then I kinda work up some other elements around it. Then try to push the melody further, then the other elements.

I can make melodies I just cant make any good ones lol.

Anyway what do you think is best to learn to improve melody making?

Should I really concentrate on theory? What are other good tips or skills to improve melody making ability if such thing exists?

I think my problem is my brain even sitting still I cannot produce a melody in my head lol...thats not right?


also u think melodies are best around bar ideas?
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Old 18-01-2014, 04:55 PM   #34
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I was in choir in school for a while (when I was 11-13ish) and took some guitar lessons around that time. Didnt really pursue either of those to a level that helped me much.

About every six months I reread Raven Spirals Guide to Music Theory with my MIDI keyboard in front of me. Then I go make music for a while.

Im only talking about bars because thats how I end up visualizing things in my DAW. I try not to write instrument parts so that everything fits in a nice little 8 bar loop or whatever. Things will sound too static.

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Old 18-01-2014, 05:02 PM   #35
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I was in choir in school for a while (when I was 11-13ish) and took some guitar lessons around that time. Didnt really pursue either of those to a level that helped me much.

About every six months I reread Raven Spirals Guide to Music Theory with my MIDI keyboard in front of me. Then I go make music for a while.

Im only talking about bars because thats how I end up visualizing things in my DAW. I try not to write instrument parts so that everything fits in a nice little 8 bar loop or whatever. Things will sound too static.
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I should really read it lol

thats my new goal..
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Old 18-01-2014, 05:30 PM   #36
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You could also try writing a basic bass progression and build your melody around that. You could always change the bassline later.

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I should really read it lol

thats my new goal..
That is my second favorite theory book. Behind the Raven Spiral Guide. Raven Spiral is free or very cheap.

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That is my second favorite theory book. Behind the Raven Spiral Guide. Raven Spiral is free or very cheap.
i cant fidn this book in uk.. i think its not out any more?
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playing over a chord progression at least, the notes don't make much sense when played isolated
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i cant fidn this book in uk.. i think its not out any more?
Its not properly published

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