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Old 05-02-2018, 02:59 PM   #1
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[Lo-Fi House] PPNDP - Stay there

Hi!

Here is my second track, I made use of your comments recently and work on the structure. Hope this one is better than the last one
It would be nice to hear some feedback (I am new in making music so, every comment is appreciated). Thank you.



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Re: [Lo-Fi House] PPNDP - Stay there

Hey!

Cool track!

I don't appreciate all the Low Pass filtering you did on the drums, I think it is cool to do it from time to time but in my opinion, you overdone it

I would open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum.

I really like the textures at 2:35, they are soooo crunchy ehehe

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Old 07-02-2018, 11:17 AM   #3
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Hey!

Cool track!

I don't appreciate all the Low Pass filtering you did on the drums, I think it is cool to do it from time to time but in my opinion, you overdone it

I would open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum.

I really like the textures at 2:35, they are soooo crunchy ehehe
Thanks for the comment! As I am learning, kick is always my biggest struggle. I have added saturator, overdrive, erosion and a bit warmer to keep it soft and lo-fi. I don't have experience, no idea what would be better. Will experiment more next time.

What do you mean by "open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum" and how to do that, I am so nooob, sorry I did not get to the 'frequency' part of using DAWs....
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Thanks for the comment! As I am learning, kick is always my biggest struggle. I have added saturator, overdrive, erosion and a bit warmer to keep it soft and lo-fi. I don't have experience, no idea what would be better. Will experiment more next time.

What do you mean by "open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum" and how to do that, I am so nooob, sorry I did not get to the 'frequency' part of using DAWs....
Don't worry about asking "noob" questions, we all have them. The more confident we are about asking them, the faster we learn so please don't be shy


"Open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum" - What I mean is that the track is lacking mids and highs, at least the highs don't sound good on my sound system.

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Old 07-02-2018, 06:21 PM   #5
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"Open up the mids and highs to have a fuller track on the frequency spectrum" - What I mean is that the track is lacking mids and highs, at least the highs don't sound good on my sound system.
I've read just about it. So, I am opening the spectrum analyser, and then use eq8 and do it like here?

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The piano is high-pitched and it is irritating to my ears - is it in those moments when it needs cuts?
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I'm really into the whole lo fi house thing recently : ) I like the filter play with the hi hats. What happens at around 2 min is brilliant, but I'd say let the unfilitered hats ride for 16 bars or something. Its a nice build up, I want to dance longer before the song goes into chill mode again. My only concern structure wise is that tune is basically over before the crowd would have a chance to really get down to it. I feel like if I was spinning this song, I'd probably que up a second copy on another deck so I could extend the last minute or so.

Mix wise I agree that everything seems a bit muddy or muffled. Whatever FX you have on the hat (it's a filter FX to my ear), I agree there is too much of that. The track needs some energy in the higher frequencies where the hats are.

I'd probably wouldn't begin to fix this by adding more processing to your sounds, I'd probably start by stripping back some of what you've already done that has made things muddy/muffled. You probably don't need all those FX on the kick. If you want that subtle deep house kick, I'd look for a short 808 kick that doesn't have much high frequency content. Then just turn it down to make it subtle. Gain stage the other elements around the kick.

You've got a good draft here. It just needs some work : ) If this is actually the second song you've made ever, you beat the pants off the second song I ever made lol.

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I'm really into the whole lo fi house thing recently : ) I like the filter play with the hi hats. What happens at around 2 min is brilliant, but I'd say let the unfilitered hats ride for 16 bars or something. Its a nice build up, I want to dance longer before the song goes into chill mode again. My only concern structure wise is that tune is basically over before the crowd would have a chance to really get down to it. I feel like if I was spinning this song, I'd probably que up a second copy on another deck so I could extend the last minute or so.

Mix wise I agree that everything seems a bit muddy or muffled. Whatever FX you have on the hat (it's a filter FX to my ear), I agree there is too much of that. The track needs some energy in the higher frequencies where the hats are.

I'd probably wouldn't begin to fix this by adding more processing to your sounds, I'd probably start by stripping back some of what you've already done that has made things muddy/muffled. You probably don't need all those FX on the kick. If you want that subtle deep house kick, I'd look for a short 808 kick that doesn't have much high frequency content. Then just turn it down to make it subtle. Gain stage the other elements around the kick.

You've got a good draft here. It just needs some work : ) If this is actually the second song you've made ever, you beat the pants off the second song I ever made lol.
Wow, thanks! Your comment is so so so useful. I am also into lo-fi recently. I will change all those things you talked about. To make it, I watched a lot of tutorials on lo-fi, there is also (on the Attack magazine) the deconstruction of DJ Boring - Winona. So, it was not impossible for a beginner to make it. There is plenty of geeks who shared the lo-fi secret recipe on YT /just write 'lo-fi house tutorial' hehe/. I have used their knowledge and improvise on it. I really enjoy making this sound and recording automation on filters. This is really fun music to do. The original thing I made was randomizing the two-step beat and adding in the background to make the beat deeper, finding vocal sample and chords. Also chopping the sample and stretching it was a bit tricky. Yes, it's too muddy, agree. Overdosed the chorus on vocal .

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Old 08-02-2018, 05:17 AM   #8
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I must say I'm not a fan of the tape hiss, nice groove though. Getting that low-fi sound can be as much about your source material as it is about processing it. I'll leave you with some links to sites with lots of vintage drum machine samples:
From this 1st site I'd recommend the Roland TR 626, and Yamaha RX7 packs 12 bit original samples.
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Drum machine and synth samples, Put these into folders before you unzip them, or they will be all over the place.
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Seems like you have a bunch of great feedback, so I will just share first impressions. There is some very interesting grooves coming from this. Very easy to dance to and with some polish could be a good track.

My only advice at this point is to not spend too much time tweaking it. It is better to move onto the next track and get a fresh start with what you learned. Rinse and repeat and before you know it, you are the one giving everyone the huge tips

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I like it, reminds me of kaytranada. Some of your sweeping filters are a little predictable and basic in a tedious way. I hear what you are going for, but I feel like a slow phasing sweep should have more than just the frequency of the filter changing.

Also, I think the drums are one of the main things that keep it lowfi. I like lofi sound, and I make it often. The drums here definitely play a large role in the overall feel of the song. Changing them could potentially brighten up this track quite a bit.

Good track, keep it up
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:19 PM   #11
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Keep it up. Nice overall feel to the track. I would probably start with a straight kick drum and hi hat or just the kick and let the rhodes float in over that with the muffled voices also floating in building up to the break down where your track actually begins. You can always start a break down with a nice reverb kick or simple cymbal crash. I might add the clap on the 2 and 4 during that breakdown after 8 bars and let the kick fade in from there. I'm not a big fan of the distortion on the rhodes but if that is part of what you were going for with the lo-fi sound, then I can appreciate that.
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Just to touch on what some others have said as well.. take what you've learned here on this song and move on. Next song whenever think you are going to do automated eq filtering, separate the region/splice/portion of the sample on to a separate track, and do the automation on that track. Mix that bit into the song, and move on.

Awesome vibe, great builds, and over all energy seems on point. There are a few structural things that I would like to hear change, but overall this sounds like a lot of other tunes from this genre. Maybe on your next track step outside the box, and switch up the arrangement to be a little different than everyone else.

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Just to play devil's advocate...I think there is also something to be said for pushing yourself to finish things. I've had years and years go by where all I did was half finish things. The more you teach yourself to polish a track, to really push past the blocks and issues, the better IMO.

That being said, early on it probably isn't a terrible idea to make more tracks and really experiment and not worry about end products so much.

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Thanks for comments. I really appreciate. All are very useful. I think I will treat this one as a ground for further education. This morning I was experimenting with settings on reverb and delay to make vocal less muddy. Finally, I found a tut how to delay the last word and it works . Also, I extended the drop. I have so many unfinished stuff that maybe I will stay with this one for the weekend. And learn about all those equalising stuff and mixing at least. I will drop here the 'improved' version soon.

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Just to play devil's advocate...I think there is also something to be said for pushing yourself to finish things. I've had years and years go by where all I did was half finish things. The more you teach yourself to polish a track, to really push past the blocks and issues, the better IMO.

That being said, early on it probably isn't a terrible idea to make more tracks and really experiment and not worry about end products so much.
Now these are some words to keep in mind. I might add that a track is finished about 10 times. The first time you say "done", you still start finding some stuff that could be better. By the way I just lately discovered, that closing my eyes and trying to "see" with my ears, is an absolutely fantastic idea: while looking at your DAW, you see all those lines and automations and midis and stuff, but if you close your eyes, you are much better in the role of a listener, not a producer, since you don't know what to expect (even though you have listened to the track for about 352 324 388 times).

So what I'm trying to add to relic's input is - just keep on listening, and you keep on finding mistakes to be fixed. The more you push yourself to finish and polish your track, the more it will get close to actually being finished.
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I usually bounce to audio and type notes into Windows Stick Notes :p As you say, I don’t really listen to the music if I’m “watching” it play in my DAW. And yes, if I call something finished and release it I’ve probably called it “finished” more than once.

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Now these are some words to keep in mind. I might add that a track is finished about 10 times. The first time you say "done", you still start finding some stuff that could be better. By the way I just lately discovered, that closing my eyes and trying to "see" with my ears, is an absolutely fantastic idea: while looking at your DAW, you see all those lines and automations and midis and stuff, but if you close your eyes, you are much better in the role of a listener, not a producer, since you don't know what to expect (even though you have listened to the track for about 352 324 388 times).

So what I'm trying to add to relic's input is - just keep on listening, and you keep on finding mistakes to be fixed. The more you push yourself to finish and polish your track, the more it will get close to actually being finished.
I think 10 times is about right. Although I have gotten into the teens like 14 or 15 (lost count at some point) on some earlier projects.

At least for me, properly finishing a track is harder than just beginning something new so one will learn a lot more and become a better producer over time by finishing their tracks, in my humble opinion.

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