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Old 02-05-2015, 05:28 PM   #61
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I don't really get how someone's opinion on something affects your enjoyment of their music. Maybe they're totally awesome people who donated their penis & kidneys to strangers...but they've got a shitty position on homosexuality or race so all their art is somehow less great than it was 20 minutes ago before you found out all this shit about them?

You're probably gonna ask me if I'd listen to the music of a serial killer or a rapist now. Screw you man that's not cool . j/k.

I'm quite sure plenty of the beautiful art we experience was created by tortured souls with archaic opinions. Maybe their great art is due to them struggling with these issues. There was a thread about this a while back, right? I think I missed it. This doesn't feel like the time or place for tl;dr posts about this shit.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:42 PM   #62
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lol Tode and gbsr are banned!?

Now that is funny right there.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:45 PM   #63
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Wow some of you are either way behind or don't have Facebook accounts.
I am way behind I also do not follow any of you on facebook, maybe I should but then things might just get weird. Actually I never post on there anyway, I just get tagged in family photos like every fucking day
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:13 PM   #64
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I don't really get how someone's opinion on something affects your enjoyment of their music. Maybe they're totally awesome people who donated their penis & kidneys to strangers...but they've got a shitty position on homosexuality or race so all their art is somehow less great than it was 20 minutes ago before you found out all this shit about them?

You're probably gonna ask me if I'd listen to the music of a serial killer or a rapist now. Screw you man that's not cool . j/k.

I'm quite sure plenty of the beautiful art we experience was created by tortured souls with archaic opinions. Maybe their great art is due to them struggling with these issues. There was a thread about this a while back, right? I think I missed it. This doesn't feel like the time or place for tl;dr posts about this shit.
man youre looking at that guy who wouldn't like some music if their best friend showed it to them, but would love and cherish it if they discovered it themselves. I barely even listen to music. I'm that level of douche.

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Old 02-05-2015, 06:26 PM   #65
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:28 PM   #66
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"..I'm quite sure plenty of the beautiful art we experience was created by tortured souls with archaic opinions. ."
Hey..don't involve me in this, man..let my music speak for itself!

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Old 03-05-2015, 03:01 PM   #67
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I personally have trouble enjoying things made by people i know are bigots because

okay maybe it's the result of their struggle... or maybe they don't struggle at all with it and it's coming from a place where they feel their bigotry is just and right. Maybe it has literally nothing to do with those emotions at all.

I don't care to take the chance. I don't want to support that shit. I'd much rather not listen to a few out of pretty much infinite pieces of music than support a bigot who may or may not have some misgivings about being a piece of shit. Am I gonna miss out now and then? certainly. Do I care? Hell fucking no. Bigots of any type deserve to feel shitty because nobody but other gross assholes want to associate with them.

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Old 03-05-2015, 04:03 PM   #68
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The artist's behaviour affects the experience because it becomes associated with the music.

Although they were never my favourite band, I can't listen to Lost Prophets any more for precisely that reason - I can't get past what that horrible man did.

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Old 03-05-2015, 04:09 PM   #69
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Excellent example.
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Old 03-05-2015, 04:18 PM   #70
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Re: HAVE YOU SEEN ME?

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The artist's behaviour affects the experience because it becomes associated with the music.

Although they were never my favourite band, I can't listen to Lost Prophets any more for precisely that reason - I can't get past what that horrible man did.
Good point. No arguing with that. I would definitely not want to listen with that association. However, I still have this inner belief that people can change and hate in any venue is not the best vehicle to operate helping people change.

Back to the guy who posted on here...he probably was raised with his beliefs and maybe not a horrible person but misguided. Righteous hate- hate that we feel when someone is wrong and inhumane may be justified however how does it help him change?

Sometimes art is about understanding the conflict and repulsion people are going through. It can be uncomfortable but depending on the artist I don't think we should shun all art/music because we don't align with the person making it.

Anyway.
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Old 04-05-2015, 12:22 AM   #71
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The artist's behaviour affects the experience because it becomes associated with the music.

Although they were never my favourite band, I can't listen to Lost Prophets any more for precisely that reason - I can't get past what that horrible man did.
Man, writing some stupid stuff on the internet is a lot different than being a convicted pedophile, in my opinion. If you guys remembered some of the stuff I've said around here, I wouldn't have ANY listeners.




And Jesus, 2ndMouse is still bringing it after all these years without even being present.

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Old 04-05-2015, 12:32 AM   #72
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Nah, he lurks.

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