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Old 29-04-2015, 09:31 PM   #81
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Update 3, 'Dorchester' now available.

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It is my friend not yours Roo...yah look who remembered his log in details

SO far so good..new midi engine is rather nice much tighter and less triplet mistakes than the past. The new IR's are an interesting bunch to say the least sound design written all over them..personally I do not see much use out of them for day to day mixing....

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Not had much time on Dorchester yet but I'll give it a thorough seeing-to over the next few days.

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Not had much time on Dorchester yet but I'll give it a thorough seeing-to over the next few days.
Few fixes that is for sure..so far I have not had any bugs pop up as far as from a mixing standpoint but I am sure there are some still in the production dept..although they did open up beta testers for future fix releases..even give you Plat for free Roo..

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It is my friend not yours Roo...yah look who remembered his log in details

SO far so good..new midi engine is rather nice much tighter and less triplet mistakes than the past. The new IR's are an interesting bunch to say the least sound design written all over them..personally I do not see much use out of them for day to day mixing....
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course i wouldn't be as far along as i am without help.
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Have you updated to Platinum yet?..Doing the monthly myself makes sense for me
Wrote a little diddy with it myself..

I does handle large sessions quite well.

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Have you updated to Platinum yet?..Doing the monthly myself makes sense for me
Wrote a little diddy with it myself..

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...and back to running in Demo Mode.

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...and back to running in Demo Mode.
You just can't get a break buddy

They should give you Platinum for free. You can tell them I said that
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...and back to running in Demo Mode.
.. I think it know you talk about it..getting even with you..must be a two drive type thing seems to be the only ones having these types of issues with SPlat.

I suffer from no such issues :snob:

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You just can't get a break buddy

They should give you Platinum for free. You can tell them I said that
I'm sure I can take that to the bank

I solved it in about half an hour. The serial number was still in the registry this time so I was very puzzled. I couldn't find any obvious reason for it breaking this time. I figured I would re-install the latest patch but before doing so rebooted the PC. Out of interest I loaded up Sonar and it was working again, without having to apply the latest patch.

My only guess is that when it previously exited, it did not do so cleanly, maybe left something in memory or didn't update one of its own files properly, though I'm leaning towards the memory thing because a reboot of the PC wouldn't change any application file contents.

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I'm sure I can take that to the bank

I solved it in about half an hour. The serial number was still in the registry this time so I was very puzzled. I couldn't find any obvious reason for it breaking this time. I figured I would re-install the latest patch but before doing so rebooted the PC. Out of interest I loaded up Sonar and it was working again, without having to apply the latest patch.

My only guess is that when it previously exited, it did not do so cleanly, maybe left something in memory or didn't update one of its own files properly, though I'm leaning towards the memory thing because a reboot of the PC wouldn't change any application file contents.

<shrugs>

Just another day in SP land.
Jeez..the more I read the more it sounds like some dodgy linux distro that just won't do what it's told or meant to do.

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Jeez..the more I read the more it sounds like some dodgy linux distro that just won't do what it's told or meant to do.

It is a Super Geek thang..SP like to sit on C and pitches a fit when you install things elsewhere.Although today SP is int eh corner for not being nice.Bougth the new Waves Hverb installed it..did the vst scan ( as you do in Sonar) 4.5 hrs..still not done scanning..so in the corner it goes..I do suspect it is the vst bridge being set to automatic( I changed it today for some odd reason) normally I have it set for the various servers..

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I think they've kludged some of SP to fit the products they are bundling with it, rather than getting the bundled products up to scratch. So when you deviate from the kludged config, you get problems.

This would be acceptable to a point if they bothered to tell you VST X or VST Y needs to be in such and such a location.

They don't, and I don't think even their support people know where stuff needs to be because of the kludges.

Melodyne is crazily buggy this patch. Sometimes if I insert bars into a project, Melodyne sometimes ceases to work on clips into which I've already inserted Melodyne as a region effect - the clip just plays as silence. I have to remove the effect, re-insert it, then do all the editing from scratch.

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The crazy thing about all of this is the effect it's having on all those other VSTs folks usually use with Sonar..like Melodyne for example. Why would you even bother with a DAW that's so buggy..stability is what we are looking for in a DAW and if that isn't there ,then there really isn't much point in using the damn thing to begin with.

Seriously, their new monthly fee model was attractive when I first read about it..but, based on the reviews / reports I've read here and elsewhere, I think I'll be giving this a wide berth..I don't care about how good it looks or how great it's history, if the thing is this buggy, then I won't be using it..end of story.

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Even though the utility/functionality of the DAW is great, I can't hand-on-heart recommend SP in its current state unless you run a very basic setup with *everything* in its default locations.

The only problem I've seen reported from someone with a standard/basic installation (Str8Jaketed), is when they use 300-year old VSTs in it

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Even though the utility/functionality of the DAW is great, I can't hand-on-heart recommend SP in its current state unless you run a very basic setup with *everything* in its default locations.

The only problem I've seen reported from someone with a standard/basic installation (Str8Jaketed), is when they use 300-year old VSTs in it

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Even though the utility/functionality of the DAW is great, I can't hand-on-heart recommend SP in its current state unless you run a very basic setup with *everything* in its default locations.

The only problem I've seen reported from someone with a standard/basic installation (Str8Jaketed), is when they use 300-year old VSTs in it
I fixed it Mr Man...The new H-verb was causing a ruckus..reinstall re license and done deal..I did clean out some old plugs that I do not use..now the splash screen is down to about 30 secs from 4 1/2 minutes.32 bit PI's where causing some serious lag. but now I am a happy camper..:badger: still have 3000 plugs thanks to Automaps stupid DLL's..and my few years of bundle buying..ooops...:problemofficer:

15 yrs old by the way..SMH...

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Re: Cakewalk SONAR is dropping numbered version releases

Small updates released today for Anderton(and Anderton Collections), several FX Suites and Documentation..

and drum roll please..............
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DRUM REPLACER! :mayonesa::mayonesa::mayonesa::mayonesa:

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Drum Replacement not showing up in ARA FX. Investigating.

EDIT: Ah, it doesn't show up, it's just a function of audio snap.

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