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Old 25-11-2016, 09:57 PM   #1
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Does anybody use Linux?

Does anybody use Linux for music creation?
Linux has a bad reputation for poor sound quality, in particular when using PulseAudio and the kernel built for servers. In my experience, the sound quality is excellent if* you are using a fine tuned specialist distro with applications set up for using Jack and a real time audio processing kernel.

There are some limitations in the software selection. I do most everything with LMMS and Audacity, occassionally Rosegarden or Ardour and some others. One thing I do like about the specialist distributions in Linux is that all of your VSTs and plugins get synched to all of your audio production apps and you can search for them and install them easily all at once instead of individually downloading and installing them all one by one.

I have not tried setting up or using MIDI yet. Apparently it can be done.

LMMS might not be the most full featured DAW, but I have gotten used to it and kind of like it. I like how easy it is to use my own samples. I dislike how difficult it is to export tracks, especially since the file system hierarchy has to have the files all in the same place if using your own samples, or else it won't load properly.

I am definitely having fun though and some people seem to like what I make.

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Old 27-11-2016, 05:56 PM   #2
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I used LMMS on and off, it's a fun alternative to FL studio. It's so easy to clip a track yet it doesn't sound bad. I like to use it for coming up with lo-fi sounds. As far as exporting work, their latest beta doesn't do it for me so I record the output in audacity.

I really want to like Linux but I'm a Windows guy through and through. I like just being a user and not being some terminal commanding coding expert, even if I want to think of myself as useful.

I want to compile Ardour lately.

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Old 28-11-2016, 05:09 AM   #3
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Once upon a time I used to agree that Windows was more user friendly and that things 'just worked' on it, even if I had my own reasons for using Linux.....like being able to copy my operating system to multiple harddrives and recover encrypted files on a different machine without having to log in, etc. It used to be easy to bypass network security by doing nothing more than rebooting into another OS that they didn't secure against that used different ports....

At this point, with Windows 8 and 10....There are ebbs and flows with various issues and bugs that come up in all operating systems, but if you follow the stable releases (for the most part) and you are not already used to anything in particular, I would say that Linux Mint or Manjaro or several others geared for new users are more user friendly and more things work out of the box without even needing to save your driver disks.....You don't even need to be online first to download your wifi drivers, which is a miderable catch 22 on windows.

The days of needing to know the terminal are largely over in Linux, though so are the days where anyone who uses it will become a hacker.
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Messed around with BitWig on a friends machine who was running Ubuntu. Pretty quick & rock-solid platform to work with, something I may consider if I ever decide to move away from Windows in the future (I currently have Win7 with SP1 only updates as stripped down as possible for DAW work and do alot of my web browsing through a selection of VM's depending on the web content for security).

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Wine may offer more options in the software department, but I haven't tried it myself, and I don't know if/how it will do with VSTs.

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I wonder how terrible the latency will be with with the whole app running entirely with Wine (as opposed to just using it for plugins).
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Once upon a time I used to agree that Windows was more user friendly and that things 'just worked' on it, even if I had my own reasons for using Linux.....like being able to copy my operating system to multiple harddrives and recover encrypted files on a different machine without having to log in, etc. It used to be easy to bypass network security by doing nothing more than rebooting into another OS that they didn't secure against that used different ports....

At this point, with Windows 8 and 10....There are ebbs and flows with various issues and bugs that come up in all operating systems, but if you follow the stable releases (for the most part) and you are not already used to anything in particular, I would say that Linux Mint or Manjaro or several others geared for new users are more user friendly and more things work out of the box without even needing to save your driver disks.....You don't even need to be online first to download your wifi drivers, which is a miderable catch 22 on windows.

The days of needing to know the terminal are largely over in Linux, though so are the days where anyone who uses it will become a hacker.
8.1 I don't think was ever really as bad as people made it out to be. I mean yea, the start screen is annoying sometimes but if you have fingers and type quickly enough to hit the shortcuts you need....no need to hate. I was flattered by it considering my school gave me a copy via dreamspark, the only thing I needed to do was basically use it. The build splash screen didn't bother me much (which activating got rid of) and everything ran great. I built a gaming rig last year, got to use/enjoy it.

10 tho. I got tired of having stability from windows 7 and foolishly thought microsoft wouldn't bend me over; it's a piece of work. Markedly worse than anything to date (despite exclusively putting dx12 up for people) for average joes with basic hardware (what I'm really saying is, windows fucks any laptop user still using an integrated graphics chip by presenting 10 to them, forcing them to buy a new laptop that's gotten a graphics card shoved in). I mean, at this point things work. But they don't work so great. Maybe I get a little ram boost, but now I get that "oh fuck I'm being spied on" sensation in my life.

Yea, I get that I can use Mint....but I just never got cozy with it....it's overly square. Different bag with Ubuntu; I got pissed at trying to install the one app great for fap browsing (Kodi Media Player) because it wanted to push me into terminal commands. I mean....Yea, I can do it, but when I'm tired I just want to say fuck all the hamfisting fixes and go to the direct route. People like windows. They're shiny. It doesn't bitch unless you really mess up. And trying to set up virtual machines with various versions of distros was hell too. Showed me I couldn't do a few things.

Between Gaben and Linus Torvalds someone should be able to find a way to dumb this thing down to the benefits without the needed geekery of plug n play. Steam OS was a step in a direction....but last I heard barely anyone really relies on it.

As much as I want to say "yea go free".....people aren't going to develop for Linux massively until they can't take windows anymore. When I can move to Linux without any lack of compatibility I came from I'm game.
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Re: Does anybody use Linux?

Win 8.1 only issue was interface. Under the hood it streamed faster from HDDs and was better for DAWs.
Win 10. interface fixed. No issues once I nailed those little helpful extras like audio manager from my motherboard manufacturer. Very stable, only issue is telemetry which is easily fixed by something like Spybot Antibeacon.

A new release candidate for latest version of Linux is out but Mr. Torvald has complaints about it so the next version may be a little while yet. Never use it myself for music but if people like it then fill your boots.

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Too late! 4.8 dropped with the bug intact! Wait for 4.9 because apparently it's a kernel killer. Although touch support for surface tablets could be interesting for some cool shit...
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I use Ubuntu on my laptop which I have been using most of the time lately. My desktop is Windows 10. SO on the laptop i mainly run JACK, Renoise, and only a select few synth plugins. Plugin wise I mostly use Uhe Bazille and Loomer Aspect.

I really like makin music in linux. The JACK interface is amazing for routing audio and midi. Hell I even DJ using linux. With that type of setup I use Mixxx routed in to Renoise to take advantage of Renoise's plugins. Its pretty friggin stable. Very rarely crashes. Only thing that I have issues with is my laptop CPU's. I am currently running a i3 quadcore with 4 g's of ram. So esp with Bazille I have to watch certain things to avoid artifacts. But its ok thought. Like I said, just gotta what how crazy you get. Mostly its getting the amp release to long before my CPU just says F you.

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Linux definitely seems like the most 'IDM' OS, lol.
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Linux definitely seems like the most 'IDM' OS, lol.
haha I was about to say this, pretty sure there are some open-source DAW out there where you can create what I would call legit IDM music

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haha I was about to say this, pretty sure there are some open-source DAW out there where you can create what I would call legit IDM music


http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/ - sunvox - tracker type DAW

http://www.reaper.fm/ - I heard reaper works in linux now i think, haven't tried it yet.

http://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ - another tracker type daw

https://ardour.org/ - Prob one of the BEST mutlitracking daw's for linux. HUGE fan.

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ - Another mutlitracking DAW - pretty cool, havnt used it in years though.

https://lmms.io/ - Another pretty cool DAW.


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http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/sunvox/ - sunvox - tracker type DAW

http://www.reaper.fm/ - I heard reaper works in linux now i think, haven't tried it yet.

http://milkytracker.titandemo.org/ - another tracker type daw

https://ardour.org/ - Prob one of the BEST mutlitracking daw's for linux. HUGE fan.

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/ - Another mutlitracking DAW - pretty cool, havnt used it in years though.

https://lmms.io/ - Another pretty cool DAW.

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I am currently taking a break from Linux DAW stuff.
I sure as heck am not working with Windows 10, however.
In retrospect, I got my best work done on 32-bit Windows XP SP2 OEM. I really kinda wish I could go back to that. It took a lot of work, but after that it was predictable as long as away from the internet.

2nd to that, 32-bit Ubuntu Studio v14.04 LTS with updated 32-bit Wine on ext3 was great!
I was successfully able to run 32-bit Reaper with VST instruments and effects. It was a fun experience and was a relief away from Windows. The downside is that it required downloading a lot of updates to get the system to where I wanted it. It wasn't hard, just time and bandwidth consuming. Also, Ubuntu Studio has a lot of bloat even though it's nice.

I will probably go back to a Linux DAW computer, but I'm currently taking a break from it for DAW use.
Yet for basic use, Linux is preferred.

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The days of needing to know the terminal are largely over in Linux, though so are the days where anyone who uses it will become a hacker.
That depends on what you use.personally i use slackware 14.2.
the advantage being,no spyware etc.also you have to build your own packages.wich makes for stable software,and a rock solid system.you do indeed need to be knowledgeable with terminal,and linux command structure.
i use win7sp1x64,for music production and cgi,mainly because i have a ton invested in win only software.that being said,it's all about choice.
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Simple answer: YES - and I love it.

Going to bed, but posting some threads as might be useful. The first one is a compilation of Linux instruments, effects, and software that I and others have found on the net.

Linux: effects, instruments, tutorials, tech, etc. (LV2/LADSPA/DSSI)

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I am all for what linux represents as far as freedom of options and freedom from microsoft. However, I am not going to spend 4 years of my life learning the ins and outs of the terminal jargon just to get something to work when it breaks. That's 4 years I could be making music. Everything is simple.... until one of your "devices" or "software" doesn't work out of the box. Then you have to prepare for 4 years of intense language and coding experience to fix it. Sudo get apt my ass! There is a video titled "Why Linux Still Sucks". Also any operating system that requires to break into hardware developers secret HQ and steal unreleased linux drivers, or telling the devs to make linux drivers at gun point, its best to pick another OS.

I really want Linux to be 10 times better than windows is in the desktop market, but its gonna take a while. And to those that say it is better than microsoft, your either delusional or you get aroused by command lines. Thats not to say you can't make it work. I'd suppose you'd have to work around being on linux.

LMMS was my first DAW and I think its great, but I came across a few bugs back in the day with it. The packaged sounds are kinda outdated too imo. But that was a long time ago. I think the main thing is that what ever works, works. Mileage will vary.

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Modern-day Linux really isn't that difficult unless you choose the wrong type. Some are more user-friendly than others. Most are all point and click except for a few minor points. It's really not much different from Windows now, where you could edit the Registry to get more features too.

I got several good years of music-making out of using Ubuntu Studio without even touching JACK Audio Connection Kit. I will probably do it again, but I'm waiting a while this time since I have a functional Windows system (it hasn't broken yet like so many of the past).

I find that the customizability of Linux is the strongest point. Also, being able to run both Linux and Windows programs is nice as long as I don't overwhelm myself with too much freewares.

On the downside, Ubuntu Studio's support got taken down a few notches recently on http://UbuntuForums.com They archived the whole subsection!!!?!?! D'oh!
It's still there, but inactive. Ubuntu Studio is still supported, but more on other sites now.

On the flipside, AVLINUX is pretty cool in some ways. I just wish it was more stable and had a more up to date WINE. But it's gradually getting better, at least.

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