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Old 19-05-2016, 01:40 PM   #1
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Reason 9 update

I barely use reason anymore but they are coming out with a full number upgrade
It seems like lots of people diss reason, I don't know why they are really trying to become a full DAW
Anyways this is making me think about reusing reason again, you know some change probably never hurts.

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Re: Reason 9 update

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I barely use reason anymore but they are coming out with a full number upgrade
It seems like lots of people diss reason, I don't know why they are really trying to become a full DAW
Anyways this is making me think about reusing reason again, you know some change probably never hurts.
If they do another upgrade without outside VST's I think most people will give up on them. What is the point in upgrading if you can't be a fully functioning DAW by upgrade 9? I will probably always keep up with it because I really enjoy working in Reason. It's like playing with legos. Still the fact reason is not a full DAW has forced me to find another DAW I can rewire into.

Singing audio to midi is cool, pitch edit is awesome but, looks like no outside VST's.

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Re: Reason 9 update

I think the modular setup is really unique and the combinator is a stellar macro generator. This offers a perhaps slightly more intuitive assignment of modulation routes that's not easy to accomplish in other daws. I take it this focus on a distinct CV architecture does require specific code to integrate any plugin.
All that's needed, I would assume, is a plugin in reason that could host a VST and translate CV into MIDI.

But, yeah, it is limiting in the choice of plugins.

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Re: Reason 9 update

Reason is all I really use. I like it. I don't think people diss Reason at all anymore. Not since Reason and Record combined anyways. I guess they do, but really we diss FL, Live, everything 'cause that's how we roll.
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Re: Reason 9 update

Been with Reason since before it was Reason and called ReBirth since beta...it really has matured greatly over the last few version into a really decent all around DAW....once they add some editing features that other daws contain should be a no brainer..especially for those just starting out..and I use it to this day to teach signal routing..the cables are worth the price to me..

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Re: Reason 9 update

Never used it so had a nosey on the VST subject. Yikes, that is a lot of work for what other DAWs take for granted.

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Re: Reason 9 update

Yea I had rebirth too! I know for sure that I would never buy a 303 because of that program. I couldn't believe the demos that some people made with it.
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Re: Reason 9 update

I had rebirth as well! Must mean we are old!
I think I still have a reason 2 license somewhere!

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Re: Reason 9 update

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Reason is all I really use. I like it. I don't think people diss Reason at all anymore. Not since Reason and Record combined anyways. I guess they do, but really we diss FL, Live, everything 'cause that's how we roll.
I my experience:

Tools users diss Logic users.
Logic users diss Live users.
Live users diss Reason users.
Reason users diss Fruity users.
Fruity users don't get Cubase.
Cubase users love everybody.

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I my experience:

Tools users diss Logic users.
Logic users diss Live users.
Live users diss Reason users.
Reason users diss Fruity users.
Fruity users don't get Cubase.
Cubase users love everybody.
I don't think Reason users diss anyone. They mostly feel slighted that they are not thought of as legit and want people to think they are good enough.
Cubase users feel superior because they were around before everyone and they are the ancient know it all's and know better.

Live users think they are the best because they are newest, shiniest and coolest kid on the block.

Logic users are mysterious because not everyone really knows what they are about. Logic users have the stamp of the blue apple on their side so they don't really care or say anything.

Tools users usually are working in the industry so they don't say anything except they are the industry standard.

Fruity users do get dissed. But they have cool colors and lights like Mrs. Packman. So I think everyone is secretly jealous that they look like a video game.

That's my take.
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Re: Reason 9 update

SoundTools or it didn't happen....yup I am old as industry dust...

Use what you use as long it does what you want it to do..no one really cares and thsoe that do really are not worth the time to debate um..

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Re: Reason 9 update

In my experience, the people who like reason are ones who like to record midi a lot and not edit a ton. Almost like a keyboard workstation approach. In not sure if this is still the case, but last time I used reason (I think version 5?) the piano roll was still fucking awful for drawing in stuff, which is what I do 95% of the time. Maybe it's better by now, or maybe I just don't know some shortcuts that really speed things up.

The reason I like fl studio is because it is extremely fast for editing in general. Reason always felt kinds of clunky in comparison. The sound design stuff is very cool, but nowadays I can make all the sounds I need with other plugins. there is definitely some special magic in that department in reason tho.

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In my experience, the people who like reason are ones who like to record midi a lot and not edit a ton. Almost like a keyboard workstation approach. In not sure if this is still the case, but last time I used reason (I think version 5?) the piano roll was still fucking awful for drawing in stuff, which is what I do 95% of the time. Maybe it's better by now, or maybe I just don't know some shortcuts that really speed things up.

The reason I like fl studio is because it is extremely fast for editing in general. Reason always felt kinds of clunky in comparison. The sound design stuff is very cool, but nowadays I can make all the sounds I need with other plugins. there is definitely some special magic in that department in reason tho.
Interesting, I do like to initially play all my parts with my controller/keyboard. Even the drums. I mostly use the mouse to edit.
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Re: Reason 9 update

Interestingly I thought I'd demo Reason 8 when on sale pre v9 release.
Uninstalled it after a day, I couldnt get on with it. Very claustrophobic workspace, felt small and not felxible. TO be honest I didnt give it enough of a chance however vst hosting is a no go for me personally, so many plugins that are great or acustom tools.
I did actually think reason could host vsts, but couldnt see any options in preferences. Didnt RTFM so cant moan if I missed a trick.
Im sure it has its place, but for midi, Cubase should be your first look in tbh. But I do see what MKs means as Props seem to promote reason more as a recording tool for live muscians rather than more itb production.
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I don't think Reason users diss anyone. They mostly feel slighted that they are not thought of as legit and want people to think they are good enough.
Cubase users feel superior because they were around before everyone and they are the ancient know it all's and know better.

Live users think they are the best because they are newest, shiniest and coolest kid on the block.

Logic users are mysterious because not everyone really knows what they are about. Logic users have the stamp of the blue apple on their side so they don't really care or say anything.

Tools users usually are working in the industry so they don't say anything except they are the industry standard.

Fruity users do get dissed. But they have cool colors and lights like Mrs. Packman. So I think everyone is secretly jealous that they look like a video game.

That's my take.
The circle of diss is irrefutable

Well Tools is the granddaddy, with Sound Designer in 84. But that wasn't a DAW in the modern sense of the term. It was a big chunky beast of a console thing... Not something you could install on a "personal computer".

In that sense, Logic (Creator/Notator) came first [Mid 88], then Tools [Early 89], then Cubase [Mid 89]. But Notator and Cubase only did MIDI and tools only did audio. I'm not sure which did both first. But it definitely wasn't Tools. Their MIDI implementation was waaaaay behind. But their audio was waaaay ahead.

I don't think that Fruity users get dissed anymore than anyone else though. Maybe there's a correlation between Fruity use and an inability to take criticism. Maybe it's just that they don't like being called Fruity users. Maybe. All I know is that I've been "corrected" so many times, "It's FL Studio dude."

"No dude. It's Fruity Loops. Trust me, I have been using it since version 1 when it just did general MIDI and was awesome!"

Ah... The circle of diss never ends... Sorry for the OT rant

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The circle of diss is irrefutable

Well Tools is the granddaddy, with Sound Designer in 84. But that wasn't a DAW in the modern sense of the term. It was a big chunky beast of a console thing... Not something you could install on a "personal computer".

In that sense, Logic (Creator/Notator) came first [Mid 88], then Tools [Early 89], then Cubase [Mid 89]. But Notator and Cubase only did MIDI and tools only did audio. I'm not sure which did both first. But it definitely wasn't Tools. Their MIDI implementation was waaaaay behind. But their audio was waaaay ahead.

I don't think that Fruity users get dissed anymore than anyone else though. Maybe there's a correlation between Fruity use and an inability to take criticism. Maybe it's just that they don't like being called Fruity users. Maybe. All I know is that I've been "corrected" so many times, "It's FL Studio dude."

"No dude. It's Fruity Loops. Trust me, I have been using it since version 1 when it just did general MIDI and was awesome!"

Ah... The circle of diss never ends... Sorry for the OT rant
i i'm a fruity user who refuses to call it FL studio. For one thing, Florida is the worst state here in the US

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By the way here is something from one of my favorite artists made in Reason:
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