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Old 04-10-2015, 09:53 PM   #1
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Icon5 [SOLVED] Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

EDIT: solved around November 1, 2015

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Recently, all of sudden, SoundCloud embeddings aren't playing on my FireFox 41.0.1 web browser.

I didn't change anything, and it's ONLY IDMforums that they don't play on.
They show up, but clicking on the play button doesn't start them playing.
If I click on Info I can get to the SoundCloud page which plays just fine.

However, I noticed that for a few days it was trying to send "event=https://artist/tune" instead of "https://artist/tune" for the beginning of the link.
Is this part of the problem? Did somebody fix that, because it stopped today... ?

It never used to do this before. I think maybe somebody at IDMf changed the embed code functioning? Nothing else anywhere else changed, and it's only this site that is wierd. Other forum sites work fine. I have flash installed of course. Everything worked fine about a week ago. I verified that it's not AdBlock or any other plugins.

Any ideas?

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Old 04-10-2015, 10:52 PM   #2
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

This has been happening to me all week on Chrome. I've tried disabling add-ons and nothing seems to fix it either
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:05 AM   #3
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

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I think maybe somebody at IDMf changed the embed code functioning?
Why would they?
Seems highly unlikely to me.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:01 PM   #4
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Icon5 Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

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Why would they?
Seems highly unlikely to me.
Then why would the functioning change and only on this site?
There have been times in the past where there were technical difficulties due to pending forum improvements. I'm not making accusations I just wanted to find out how to get soundcloud functionality back for this site.

nothing on my end changed. and soundcloud plays fine by iteself.
did soundcloud change their own embedding scripts in a way that only affects IDMf? that seems unlikely also

anyways, please tell an admin

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Old 05-10-2015, 08:32 PM   #5
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

it also changed on facebook. SC have changed how their player embeds so it takes you to the site instead, tracking related shizzle methinks.

however, i am the same firefox version and get no playback issues with the embedded players on here
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:39 AM   #6
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

OK thanks Benwaa.
If soundcloud changed their player's ownembedding behavior then there's nothing I can do about it.
Dang frustrating. But oh well
Thanks.

EDIT: Hey, tonight the tags started working again! I'll test some other links to make sure.
This is wierd but a relief.

Hey thanks you guys if you tweaked something for compatibility.

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Old 06-10-2015, 07:05 AM   #7
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?



Works quite well for me.

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Old 06-10-2015, 06:10 PM   #8
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

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it also changed on facebook. SC have changed how their player embeds so it takes you to the site instead, tracking related shizzle methinks.

however, i am the same firefox version and get no playback issues with the embedded players on here
Oh... so i send my pm to the wrong guy. Anyway, i'll post it here:

I'd like to ask a favour.

Can you please upgrade your vbulletin custom bb code scripts, most services(Vimeo, Youtube, Dailymotion, Soundcloud, etc) deliver new embed codes that are capable of running optionally without flash using the html5 audio and video tags nearly all browsers support at current date.

Here is what i use on my own vbulletin forums. (German musician community)

Soundcloud BB Code:

Code:
<iframe width="100%" height="166" scrolling="no" frameborder="no" src="https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url={param}&amp;color=ff5500&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false"></iframe>
(The current version can be fetched by pressing share on a soundcloud track and then switching to the embed tab. You'll find the code in the small input field. As for all vbulletin bb code tags, you just need to add the {param} variable. See manual.)

See here for a demo:
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Same goes for youtube and others.


I also coded a little piece that switches our mp3 player integration to the html5 audio tag, if a user does not have flash installed. (iDevices, etc.)

This is the code i came up with:

1. Check if you have jquery.js in your page, if not -> [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]
(it does not fuck with the scripts vbulletin ships, you will not notice it)

2. Add this script(that uses jquery) to your pages html head tag:

Code:
 <script>
    var hasFlash = false;
    try {
        var fo = new ActiveXObject('ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash');
        if (fo) {
            hasFlash = true;
        }
    } catch (e) {
        if (navigator.mimeTypes
            && navigator.mimeTypes['application/x-shockwave-flash'] != undefined
            && navigator.mimeTypes['application/x-shockwave-flash'].enabledPlugin) {
            hasFlash = true;
        }
    }

    if(hasFlash) {
        $("<style type='text/css'> .hideIfFlash{ display: none; } </style>").appendTo("head");
    } else {
        $("<style type='text/css'> .hideIfNotFlash{ display: none; }</style>").appendTo("head");
    }
</script>
This code is very simple, it tries to find out if the users browser has flash installed. If flash is installed, then the script add a css class to the page, that can be used to hide areas of the page if flash is active. Or if flash is not installed then it adds a css class that can be used to hide all flash based parts of the page.

After installing this, you can use the css classes in the custom bb code if your forums like this:

Code:
    <div class="hideIfNotFlash">
    <!-- copy the code of your current flash based mp3 player here -->
    </div>
    <div class="hideIfFlash"><audio src="{param}" controls></audio><br><i>{param}</i></div>
This way you can support both versions of players.

Have phun.
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Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

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EDIT: Hey, tonight the tags started working again! I'll test some other links to make sure.
This is wierd but a relief.

Hey thanks you guys if you tweaked something for compatibility.
Yep. I noticed that everything plays now as well. I wonder what that was.

Does anybody have the new gray box with an added play button over the soundcloud embeds themselves? When that started originally, that's when I couldn't actually listen to the embed. Now, I just click both play buttons and everything works.
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Icon5 Re: Are SoundCloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

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Does anybody have the new gray box with an added play button over the soundcloud embeds themselves? When that started originally, that's when I couldn't actually listen to the embed. Now, I just click both play buttons and everything works.
I have never seen that.

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Old 29-10-2015, 10:41 PM   #11
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Re: Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

It's back. It must be how Chrome is handling the code somehow, but I also suspect it's something in this forum's coding. It won't even redirect to Soundcloud's site when you press on it.

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Re: Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

As suggested elsewhere, it looks like its so they can do the play-analyzing thing better locally on their site than through the embedded player.

Just another nail really. The more they make it less convenient, the less people will want to use it.

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As suggested elsewhere, it looks like its so they can do the play-analyzing thing better locally on their site than through the embedded player.

Just another nail really. The more they make it less convenient, the less people will want to use it.
But it's working on every other site and forum I am using - including my own website - just fine.

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But it's working on every other site and forum I am using - including my own website - just fine.
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Old 30-10-2015, 12:13 AM   #16
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Re: Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

Yeah, until we get HTML5 support, it won't work.

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Old 30-10-2015, 12:16 AM   #17
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Is that even possible in our current forum package?

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Old 30-10-2015, 12:25 AM   #18
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Re: Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

Benwaa would know but he might give another one of his satyrical mystical nonsensical answers too.

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Old 30-10-2015, 09:41 AM   #19
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Re: Are Soundcloud tags working? Have embeds been changed?

No it's not possible as far as I know, since we're running an older version of vBulletin.
It'll be much quicker if you all just switch to some other website that we can still support.
Ben seems to champion hearthis.at but there's tags for Bandcamp, Spoitify and Mixcloud too.
It's not our fault.
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It probably wouldn't be too difficult.

I think it would just be a matter of creating a new bbCode to test the HTML5 player. Then testing it out from embeds from existing posts to make sure it works. Backing up the old one just in case, then replacing it with the new one.

However, I would have to read up the current SC embeds because the last time I implemented the HTML5 player it was totally different from the flash embed. That was a couple of years ago though so it might be easier to switch from one to the other. I'll have a look.

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