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Old 20-04-2013, 12:55 PM   #1
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Drumfunk!?

So I've discovered a new genre for myself that has made me willing to dive into the city of technical breakbeats that is drum n bass. This genre is drumfunk. Now I've heard some of it and the only thing I can find distinguishing it from other DnB is the emphasis on organic sounding drums. (also I hear it's supposed to incorporate Wonky into it?) Does anyone know what else sets drumfunk apart from other dnb genres? I'm kind of at a loss for differentiating it, but I'd really like to know it's boundaries so that I can start making amazing breaks like this.

related sidenote:
anyone know what time signature this song is in?


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Old 20-04-2013, 01:22 PM   #2
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Re: Drumfunk!?

You might have a lot of fun with a Tracker like ModPlug or Renoise if you enjoy this style of breakbeat. It really sounds to me like lots of fun offsetting/chopping on the tracker command line (with a lot of love and care respectively if that's the case with this track), retriggers and reverses and so forth.

(I can't pinpoint the time signature in this track I am thinking 7/4 or 15/8 or a shifting meter)
It might even be a good practice to set some kind of wild time signature and just go with it, like in Renoise a basic 4/4 signature can be represented with 64 columns downward, so setting that to a meter of like 97 colums, yields some funky beat patterns, and different ways of filling them in to fit the odd meter.

A lot of the synthesis was pretty typically ambient/soundscape, keys with lots of reverb, birdlike effects, some real sexy sub bass going on there.

I think the key here is LIVE drum samples.

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Old 20-04-2013, 03:11 PM   #3
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Re: Drumfunk!?

the difference to me, apart from the heavily chopped beats, is that the musical elements are way more minimal, most harmony comes from the sub-bass, the rest is usually soft sounding ambient elements.

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Old 20-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #4
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Re: Drumfunk!?

I think you have a pretty good description here. There is also drumkfunk that uses synthesized drum hits and sounds a bit colder and darker kinda like tech step.

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Old 20-04-2013, 04:20 PM   #5
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Re: Drumfunk!?

I quite like the song you posted - full of style.

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Old 21-04-2013, 06:53 AM   #6
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Re: Drumfunk!?

What is a tracker broton? I googled both of those and they look like DAWs
Fuck I'm going to give this style a try. Never tried dnb, they key here is fast releases on a lot of things and a kick that doesn't interfere with the sub? I think I can incoporate my own styles of grooves into this but I need help more with fitting everything in frequency wise. What I've noticed is that the drums have minimal mid range content?

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Old 21-04-2013, 07:00 AM   #7
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Re: Drumfunk!?

I think you are overthinking it
Find a break that you like the sound of and go from there.

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Old 21-04-2013, 07:31 AM   #8
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Re: Drumfunk!?

Fuckum just do it kk

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Old 22-04-2013, 01:58 PM   #9
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Re: Drumfunk!?

Yeah a Tracker is a type of DAW, mainly it reads patterns as hex values in a table, top to bottom. The hex values tell the tracker which notes to play among other things, such as instrument/vol/pan/delay/macro depending on the tracker.

Modplug is a great free tool for learning trackers, and Renoise I would suggest is the next step up but not free. There are all kinds of trackers though, most commonly on the C64 and Amiga systems (I also assume the classic Fairlight is a type of 'tracker'), and is often the arrangement DAW of choice for early 8-bit video game systems.

Modern trackers are most commonly utilized for their abilities to chop and resample beats and tracks, and the simple plugin importing. They see a lot of use in Acid and Breakcore music, traditional Video Game composers still use them for their accessibility/familiarity, and tons of Chiptune artists use classic emulations (in fact I would go so far as to say that tracking is the chiptune standard - historically).

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Old 30-04-2013, 07:10 AM   #10
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Re: Drumfunk!?

nice tune, definitely overthinking it though..

gravitating towards drumcentric dnb myself now, but more on the hardstep tip.

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Old 17-08-2013, 04:14 PM   #11
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Re: Drumfunk!?

I absolutely adore drumfunk, but sadly hardly anyone really makes it anymore. Paradox is still flying the flag with his productions for his own Paradox Music imprint and his stuff for other labels (his recent stuff for Samurai is excellent, Crate Logic is an amazing tune).

If you wanna explore the genre I'd thoroughly recommend checking out DJ Trax, ASC, Paradox, Seba and Alaska's contributions. Paradox presents The Age of Outsides is probably my favourite drumfunk record, 2CD mixed album.

I think the reason I love it so much is because it's the closest thing there is to Ambient D&B - it's got high tempo syncopated drums but because natural drum samples are used alongside ambient/floaty sounding pads and the bass isn't too prominent it has a really chilled out quality to it. I'm working on a bunch of productions just now employing natural drum breaks from a recording session a while back which have a drumfunk-y vibe to them. More on that when I get them finished
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Old 17-08-2013, 06:17 PM   #13
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Re: Drumfunk!?

Holy tits, when that sub dropped I fell in love. I am downloading this now.

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THOSE DRUMS HOLY GOD :O they are god like
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Re: Drumfunk!?

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related sidenote:
anyone know what time signature this song is in?
Song is in 4/4. The basic Pattern at the beginning is 8 Beats long.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:23 AM   #17
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Re: Drumfunk!?

Yeah most drumfunk tunes are actually in 4/4, they just use complicated drum patterns that don't necessarily repeat obviously. It's a bit of a nightmare to mix!

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I always tho these were just DNB, there's really nothing different.
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Re: Drumfunk!?

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I always tho these were just DNB, there's really nothing different.
I don't know the genre but OP's track and the first result I got for 0=0 are much more exciting to me than dnb ...

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I always tho these were just DNB, there's really nothing different.
Drumfunk is a sub-style of D&B but it has a different feel to most classic jungle or modern D&B. There's a good (if brief) discussion of D&B substyles on [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]
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