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Old 18-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #1
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Kick Drum Help

Hey Guys,

So i have a layered kick. One that is more punchy electro house that i have cut the high end out of and then my other kick has a nice high end that i like so i cut the low end and mixed together pretty well. I was just wondering any good tips for making the kick stand out more in the mix. I'm a beginner so any help i would really appreciate!

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Old 18-07-2013, 02:19 PM   #2
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Re: Kick Drum Help

Stand out more? Lower everything else, and filter out stuff in everything else that isn't needed in the low-end.
EQ (boost 50-100-ish, cut 400-ish, boost 3-5ish kHz, etc). Side-chain compression on ther overlapping sounds.
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Old 18-07-2013, 10:39 PM   #3
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Re: Kick Drum Help

gain structuring is critical

get that sorted first, everything else comes after that

and like Evelon said, clean up the low end on everything else, its very very easy for that segment of the frequency spectrum to get muddy
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Re: Kick Drum Help

Add some distortion to the kick.
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Re: Kick Drum Help

I've found when layering kicks, as well as EQ'ing, introducing 1 or 2ms of track delay on one of them will really change the overall sound. Experiment with how much track delay to use and listen for where it sounds sweetest. The idea is to not have both attack phases of the two kick drums hitting at exactly the same time. Works for me anyway Hope this helps.
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Re: Kick Drum Help

What Parmerlake said actually worked for me recently when I took a processed kick I'd made and relayered it with the same kick but pitched up by an octave. I was playing about sliding the new kick slightly to the right as to delay it a little, and suddenly hit a sweet spot that gave extra punch and solidity to the whole thing which wasn't there when starting both from the same starting point.

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Re: Kick Drum Help

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What Parmerlake said actually worked for me recently when I took a processed kick I'd made and relayered it with the same kick but pitched up by an octave. I was playing about sliding the new kick slightly to the right as to delay it a little, and suddenly hit a sweet spot that gave extra punch and solidity to the whole thing which wasn't there when starting both from the same starting point.
Do you know WHY this is?
It has to do with phase. Look it up. That will explain everything. Having samples in phase is pretty much essential when layering.

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Re: Kick Drum Help

You need to have a kick that is really punchy on the highs and the lows. Also try to filter out the noise around the track that crosses with your kick there are some tools for that and some tutorials.

Here is a good kick package that is already processed: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]


Also this guy has a tutorial about freq that mix/hinder eachother.

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Re: Kick Drum Help

i really like using drum machines.......i only have rubbish ones at the moment but i like finding the good bits on them.
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Re: Kick Drum Help

You're using ableton, so if you haven't, group the tracks together (ctrl+g with both selected) after you get the parts you want from either kick. Add all effects on the group section (i.e. compressor, secondary eq if needed, reverb). I have found, though the compressor that comes with ableton is simple, it is great for getting snappy sounds. Careful with the overall volume, though. The compressor's default volume is very high, i'd take it down 1-2db after applying.

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