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Old 01-03-2016, 12:00 AM   #1
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Headphones and driving

Hello guys. I want to be as brief as possible.

1. How can i drive AKG K702 to the max with a budget of 250euro?
2. How can i check the health of my headphones? (they are brand new with somewhere 20hours play and i want to make sure that they are working as the supposed to, cause i think my ears got used to the sound and i am no longer excited by their quailty)
3.Does driving them with a poor build-in amp destroys the headphones? I know they wont work to their max potential but is it harmful for the drivers or smth?

If anyone can answer at least one those questions i would be thankful for a lifetime thanks

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Old 01-03-2016, 12:25 AM   #2
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Re: Headphones and driving

Just subscribing as I have the same headphones. Have been thinking of getting an amp from Schitt though...they have a decent one for 99USD.

FWIW I fall in love with my 702s more and more as I use them. I have hundreds of hours on mine at this point. Personally one of my favorite things about them is that I don't think they have any bass boost or electronic/acoustic tricks to boost bass. While some might find this fustrating or "less fun" once I learned what bass should sound like on them I've been able to easily gain stage and EQ my low end. Sub frequencies are virtually not represented; however, I'm tending away from songs that are complex below 150hz...

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Old 01-03-2016, 02:24 AM   #3
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Re: Headphones and driving

Don't headphone and drive, it's the law

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Old 01-03-2016, 04:01 AM   #4
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Re: Headphones and driving

^ That's how I read the title too XD

Pretty sure a cheap DAC and amp won't damage your cans, but playing shit really loud obviously can. Signal quality, on the other hand, won't be able to do physical harm to anything really. The way DAC's work in your computer/interface/phone/whatever nowadays include some sort of limiting I bet (don't quote me on that), same with the amp. Maybe even the headphones themselves, just like a lot of mid-tier monitors have built-in compression and limiting. A low-quality artifact-ridden signal won't mess up stuff.

I have no experience with quality amps and whatnot but I do know when a converter is bad.

You can check your headphone's health by... listening to them I think? If you're used to them that's probably good because you aren't trying to guess how things translate as much, you simply intuit. If that's the case, your 'phones are in good health. If you start to hear rattling or distortion that wasn't there before, then you know what thaaat meeeaans!

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Old 01-03-2016, 05:36 AM   #5
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Re: Headphones and driving

At only 20 hours in, I'd hold off on forming impressions of your headphones just yet. Not everyone agrees, but I believe that headphones (or speakers) need about 100 hours to "burn in" and take on the sound that they're going to give you for the long haul. I actually take my headphones, plug them into my FM receiver, set it to a little louder than I would actually listen, set a timer, and then walk away until that timer hits 100 hours. I check to make sure the headphones aren't getting dead air and occasionally change the station as I walk by, but for 100 hours, that's it. Then I start listening.
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Re: Headphones and driving

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1. How can i drive AKG K702 to the max with a budget of 250euro?
With the best cables and dedicated amp that you can get for 250€. I just bought a super-cheap Little Bear P2-1 amp from China, which works great as a travelling/portable studio amp.
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2. How can i check the health of my headphones? (they are brand new with somewhere 20hours play and i want to make sure that they are working as the supposed to, cause i think my ears got used to the sound and i am no longer excited by their quailty)
Don't worry too much. If they sound good, they sound good. Unless you have damaged the diaphragm on one side and it is broken.
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3.Does driving them with a poor build-in amp destroys the headphones? I know they wont work to their max potential but is it harmful for the drivers or smth?
No. Just get a dedicated (and strong enough) headphone amp and just run with it. You are worrying too much. And don't listen to music at excessive volume. Take care of your ears.

Don't headphones and drive.

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Old 01-03-2016, 11:56 PM   #7
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Re: Headphones and driving

indeed i worry to much . maybe cause i am pessimist sometimes. anws thanks for your answers . i believe burnin in its real btw ,but i would like to burn them in by using them . I also agree with relic about their "bass thing".
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Re: Headphones and driving

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Just subscribing as I have the same headphones. Have been thinking of getting an amp from Schitt though...they have a decent one for 99USD.

FWIW I fall in love with my 702s more and more as I use them. I have hundreds of hours on mine at this point. Personally one of my favorite things about them is that I don't think they have any bass boost or electronic/acoustic tricks to boost bass. While some might find this fustrating or "less fun" once I learned what bass should sound like on them I've been able to easily gain stage and EQ my low end. Sub frequencies are virtually not represented; however, I'm tending away from songs that are complex below 150hz...
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this is a review on them from the consumer perspective by MQBHD, he points out that low frequencies have been boosted by up to 3 DB. I'm looking to buy them.
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Old 02-03-2016, 05:18 PM   #9
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Re: Headphones and driving

^Well, they sound way less bass-y than other headphones I've used owned by other people. I would also note that they will probably sound better with an amp. In your headphone thread you were looking for something that doesn't need an amp. Also, they don't rotate like DJ headphones.

Also fwiw, found a bunch of different reviewers stating the 702s and 7xxs are tuned differently even though they have the same driver. Unfortunately AKG's website doesn't even list the AKG7xx anymore, so I can't get the specs on them.

I wouldn't use these as DJ headphones personally.

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Old 02-03-2016, 08:34 PM   #10
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Re: Headphones and driving

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^Well, they sound way less bass-y than other headphones I've used owned by other people. I would also note that they will probably sound better with an amp. In your headphone thread you were looking for something that doesn't need an amp. Also, they don't rotate like DJ headphones.

Also fwiw, found a bunch of different reviewers stating the 702s and 7xxs are tuned differently even though they have the same driver. Unfortunately AKG's website doesn't even list the AKG7xx anymore, so I can't get the specs on them.

I wouldn't use these as DJ headphones personally.

the fact is that i use them for mixing and producing . So im actually looking for an amp around 250 euro that can drive them properly . Also i forgot to mention that its essential for the amp to have no colouration , boosts , etc... something that makes my search for an amp even more difficult . Are headphone amps made for production ?any enlightment ?
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:11 PM   #11
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Re: Headphones and driving

Well, I just ordered a Schiit Audio Magni 2. I can let you know how I like it next week. Check them out. The price is right and they have a good rep.

I'm sure some people would like the 702s for DJing. The way they are constructed is what would annoy me mostly.

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Re: Headphones and driving

driving while wearing headphones is illegal ya dingus
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:16 AM   #13
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Re: Headphones and driving

is the schiit audio mangi 2 meant to deliver the sound as it is ? also i think you can find the specs of the pair akg k702 online . Many people say that its hard to drive them to their max because of their high specs.... anw thanks for letting me know relic. cant wait to hear your impressions. its looks just fine . hope its the one im looking for

p.s got it guys i will never dive with headphones on hahaha cheers.
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Came to read about headphones and driving. Left disappointed
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is the schiit audio mangi 2 meant to deliver the sound as it is ?.
Pretty sure all the stuff from Schiit that doesn't have tubes is +/- .1 db from 20 hz to 20khz and very low distortion, but I can't quote exact specs off the top of my head. In short, yes.
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Re: Headphones and driving

I like the title of this thread because I use my "full covered" Headphones while driving all the time

I do not have a working radio and my passenger side widow is always open lust a crack so it produces the most annoying sound while I am driving down the high way

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Re: Headphones and driving

so thanks guys. any further suggestions would be highly appreciated . As far as i realise the only thing i have to "worry" about is getting myself the right gear to pair my headphones with. Obviously not a tube amp , and something that its 'meant" to bring u the sound as it is.
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Re: Headphones and driving

Yes, as far as I know the none-tube offerings are meant as low distortion devices for studio use. I've seen the recommended many times in that capacity, the none-tube offerings. I don't see why the 702's would be harder to drive than anything else, but Schiit audio claim their headphone amps will drive anything but a couple very high end auidophile headphones.

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Re: Headphones and driving

The AKG 702 and the Magni 2 is a great combo. The Magni 2 really increased the definition of the 702s...I hesitate to say it increased the headphone's clarity, because they aren't muddy to begin with. I'm having trouble placing my finger on how they Magni 2 improved the 702s. Everything just seems more present and forward.

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Re: Headphones and driving

so you have it already? thanks for the feedback relic.

yes the akg702 are already clear enough. I think i will go for it. Feel free to keep us up to date.

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