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Old 06-02-2013, 05:49 PM   #1
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How should i start ?

Hey guys, i just want to ask if anybody could help me how to start my electronic music production journey. I've been into production something over year now, i am working with ableton but i've never done any complete track. I am still in phase of exploring my daw, i still have moments when i realise "oh lord this shit sounds good" or "i love this effect, its the best thing in the world" you know what i am saying. I dont know why but i am enjoying it, its fun working with ableton, discovering america again and creating sounds. However, there are lots of things which i dont have idea what are they for, i dont know nothing about sound synthesis, dont know how to create my own synth/sound, there are plenty of things what i dont know. Its really annoying working with something what i dont know what it does. I cant create complete tracks simply because i dont like how it sounds, i have melody, drums everything in my head bud i cant achieve sound how it should sound. Can you guys give me advices where should i start ? What shoud i learn at first ? And how should i make something what will satisfing me ?

Any advice will be helpful, because i think i am lost in this. And sorry for my bad english .

And, maybe i am too young for it but i want to have my specific sound i dont want to use presets because i dont like them.

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Old 06-02-2013, 06:32 PM   #2
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Music is something that (should) come from deep within. There are various mediums for extracting this abstract concept of music into something that's audible and can be heard and interpreted by humans. The most popular forms of such mediums are the guitar and piano. By running a DAW, you are effectively turning your computer into an instrument and thus it is vitally important to 'know' your DAW as you have already expressed.

Having even a basic concept of music theory is advantageous to conveying your musical ideas but not nearly as important as 'knowing' your instrument. There are many truly great musicians out there who would confess to still not truly knowing their instrument; the nature of trying to learn something that has such a wealth of knowledge attached to it is a task that can't be completed in x amount of hours. It can seem (and is) a very daunting task to attempt to learn the ins and outs of an instrument or a DAW but it is something that can only be achieved by practice.

Carry on making tunes, look up tutorials on youtube, watch interviews of your favourite producers, experiment and just generally try to have fun whilst making music. I have found Mr Brain Trifon's nextstep audio tutorials on youtube invaluable for learning basic production skills. I would recommend starting there

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Old 06-02-2013, 07:54 PM   #3
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Music is something that (should) come from deep within.
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It takes time and there is no shortcut. What I suggest is that you read about the stuff that interest you and check out youtube. There is a tutorial about ANY thing. Just have to write whatever you need in search. Youtube will find a tutorial for you.

Lynda.com is a nice website. I've taken a few courses in the past and I've been very satisfied.

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Old 06-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #4
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Re: How should i start ?

To build on the previous two posts...

Music is a journey, not a destination.

Once you figure that out things become easier. And more fun : )
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #5
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I think there are quite a few approaches how you can tackle this, neither of them being necessarily wrong, just unsuitable for you. I for example started by reading the manual - I know this is quite boring, but it got me a good insight how Ableton works. I do think, that you definitely need a little bit of theoretical knowledge to understand how some things work, e.g. the effects or synthesizers. Theoretical knowledge however is useless if not put together with excessive try-and-error to find out what know changes the sound in which way.
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Old 06-02-2013, 08:04 PM   #6
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Re: How should i start ?

I can only speak from my experience. I spent about four years learning all the technical stuff...gain staging, mixing, EQing...and that knowledge (I'm still learning every day!) is great, but it doesn't help me write music. I'm just now learning little bits of theory, practicing them in the context of what I do, then learning a little more.

At this point I wouldn't say I'd trade my technical knowledge for more theory, but I wish I would have learned more theory early on.

The only other thing I will say, I think it's important to finish tracks to the best of your ability.

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Old 06-02-2013, 10:49 PM   #7
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I felt the same way when i started. You just need to go with the flow and experiment. Just take your time and start with the things that you think are important for your music.

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Old 07-02-2013, 12:26 AM   #8
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Decide if you want to do it or not. Success shouldn't be a consideration because success can be many things to many people. Then if you decide you really want to do it...

Don't give up. Not ever. Especially in the first few years. You'll want to. You'll question things. You'll wonder why things aren't coming together like you think they should. But all this is normal. It is also why most people that start making "computer music" quit loooooonnnnggggg before any sort of creative payoff.

If you're in, be all in, there's no other way around it.

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Old 07-02-2013, 01:14 AM   #9
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Re: How should i start ?

A wise man, probably Confucious, once said: 'there is only so much you can do'.

You have a certain sound in yor head and you are trying to achieve it with a DAW.

Just learn to effectively use and experiment with it, and give in and build on what it has to show you.

If you cannot find a good start or seed to a song by doing that, try something else.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:23 AM   #10
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Re: How should i start ?

On top of all the good information people have given, I would suggest only using 1 main VST to learn synthesis. Learn the complete ins and outs of the Synth (Sylenth 1, Massive etc) and use youtube tutorials for that particular synth.
Once this is learned you can then carry the same knowledge to nearly any VST synth.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:03 AM   #11
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Contradiction time: you can't force creativity, but the only way to really get things done is to just force yourself to do it.

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Old 07-02-2013, 04:40 AM   #12
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Contradiction time: you can't force creativity, but the only way to really get things done is to just force yourself to do it.
You have to make music a practice and approach it in a single minded-fashion. You have to be able to write shit tunes and get them out of your system and move onto the next. Keep a list of ideas for when you have no ideas so you always have something to work on. Schedule time for music and stick to it. If you can't make yourself work on a song, read up and fiddle around with theory or do the same thing with synthesis.

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Old 07-02-2013, 04:51 AM   #13
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First few posts sound all artistic and deep. I just fuck around until I get a beat I like and then add more stuff to it. If it keeps getting better I keep adding more stuff. For me the hard part comes once I am like 70% done and have to do the work of finishing/polishing.

It's fully ok to get part way through it and say, "wow this is total crap" and then start over from the beginning.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:52 AM   #14
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I usually just take off my pants and see where we go from there
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I usually just take off my pants and see where we go from there
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I usually just take off my pants and see where we go from there
.... er... . uuuhhhh..... what are you wearing right now?
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Aw come on guys...lemme be all philosophical...I can almost pull it off on the interwebs ... :/

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