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Old 13-12-2013, 10:03 AM   #1
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[Electropunk] Life in Ruin

This is a song I made yesterday for my upcoming live show, but I realized this is the first time I've done a traditional "Vlantis" electropunk song with vocals, power octaves, and kick/snare/hihat/snare drums for about two years, so I figured I'd post it. The vocals are temporary and recorded just so I could memorize the lyrics and melody, and I'm sure I'll mess with the mix some more. It's nice to rock out again.

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Old 13-12-2013, 12:55 PM   #2
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

FIRST!

(Yeh ok in the LB that's not really a thing )

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Great tune. Some mixing needs tightened but the song itself is really good.

I found the open hat slightly loud and intrusive.

The lead that comes in around 1:23 is a little loud as well.

That's all I've got on the first two listens. I'll be listening to this a lot more so will pop back if I spot things

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Old 13-12-2013, 03:37 PM   #3
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

Thanks Sterc! You're right about those hats. I'll have to check out the synth you mentioned, but you're probably right again.

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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

OKAY! Listened quickly on my lunch break so these thoughts are liable to be retracted after I listen at home.

I think you know that the mix is a bit rough, so theres no point talking about that. Stereocog is definitely right about the synth being too loud, but again, I'm sure thats something you'll sort out as you work on it.

Sound design wise, the organ sound that comes in at 1:44 sounds a bit off to my ears. I'm not sure if its the sound itself or the notes you're playing, but yeah.

I really like the vocal melody in this one. I get flashes of another song when I listen to it but I can't figure out what it is and it's annoying me. Rough vocals or not, it's catchy as hell.

In all this is some Vlantis-ass-Vlantis. Glad you're doing this style again.

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Old 13-12-2013, 04:06 PM   #5
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Stereocog is definitely right about the synth being too loud, but again, I'm sure thats something you'll sort out as you work on it.
Had a listen, and I know what synth you're talking about. It's the same thing played earlier except an octave higher, and I remember thinking it was too loud at some point. I'll fix it up.

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Sound design wise, the organ sound that comes in at 1:44 sounds a bit off to my ears. I'm not sure if its the sound itself or the notes you're playing, but yeah.
It's the sound. It was something I did very early on when the song was in another key and when lowering everything, I got crazy dissonance. The notes are in key, but something's screwing it up. It sounds HORRIBLE using the organ sound I originally wanted, so this was a concession. I thought it sounded okay, but maybe I should look at it again.

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I really like the vocal melody in this one. I get flashes of another song when I listen to it but I can't figure out what it is and it's annoying me.
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In all this is some Vlantis-ass-Vlantis. Glad you're doing this style again.
It's fun, I admit. I can't wait to do it live, where I can actually let loose and sing it how it was intended. None of this crooning crap.

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Old 13-12-2013, 07:38 PM   #6
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

what cha doin' --> into the outro bit

that was my favorite part, they've covered the other stuff. i like the dry/temporary vocal. curious to hear the polished vocal once you're done.

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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

I quite liked this. From what I remember from your live videos there seems to be much screaming going on and it was cool to hear something that had less of that. Maybe you just do that in the live setting because you're all into it and stuff, you know, like dave grohl.

Anyway, the primary thing I think this track needs is harmonies man, harmonies. It'd be like the cherry on top. Not all the way through though, just tastefully used here / there throughout.

Nice one though.

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Old 14-12-2013, 03:49 AM   #8
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

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what cha doin' --> into the outro bit

that was my favorite part, they've covered the other stuff. i like the dry/temporary vocal. curious to hear the polished vocal once you're done.
Thanks for listening! The real vocals will be more aggressive.

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I quite liked this. From what I remember from your live videos there seems to be much screaming going on and it was cool to hear something that had less of that. Maybe you just do that in the live setting because you're all into it and stuff, you know, like dave grohl.

Anyway, the primary thing I think this track needs is harmonies man, harmonies. It'd be like the cherry on top. Not all the way through though, just tastefully used here / there throughout.

Nice one though.
Yeah, screaming and shouting is something I do a LOT more of live. Usually there's a BIT of that on recorded versions, but not all the time.

This song was specifically done with live performance in mind, so it never occurred to me to use harmonies. One thing I would be worried about is if the harmonies would take this dangerously close to pop punk territory, 'cause this already sounds a tad more wimpy than what I originally had in my head. I'll give it a shot when I redo the vocals.


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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

I like it. Drums need to be louder imo but otherwise on my cans here it sounded good.
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Old 15-12-2013, 04:23 AM   #10
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

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I like it. Drums need to be louder imo but otherwise on my cans here it sounded good.

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Old 16-12-2013, 03:22 AM   #11
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

This is lovely, man. Pretty sure I've said so before but I'll say it again, again.

This is lovely, man.

As you said yourself, it's very old-school V-dog, but I love it, even though it's lyrically tragic D': I eagerly anticipate the polished version, though, man

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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

Yes! This intro is awesome. I really like how simple and happy the beat is, and that chorus is like bam!
I'm liking the lyrics as well.

Only thing i do wish is that there was some electric guitar in the song, would push it to the next level i think!

Good stuff tho.
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This is lovely, man. Pretty sure I've said so before but I'll say it again, again.

This is lovely, man.

As you said yourself, it's very old-school V-dog, but I love it, even though it's lyrically tragic D': I eagerly anticipate the polished version, though, man
Glad you like it, Steedy! It's just the same ol' shit that I used to do, but now I remember why I did it so much.

I, too, think the lyrics are tagic, but not for the same reason. The worst lines have been re-written, at least.

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Yes! This intro is awesome. I really like how simple and happy the beat is, and that chorus is like bam!
I'm liking the lyrics as well.

Only thing i do wish is that there was some electric guitar in the song, would push it to the next level i think!

Good stuff tho.
Thanks so much for giving it a listen!

I'm glad you like the lyrics, because I think they're pretty crappy. I'm happy that there's at least one person out there who doesn't agree with me.

I can definitely understand about wanting electric guitar. I've done stuff like this in the past with lots of guitars, (*cough check out Urotanki in my bandcamp link *cough hack*) and have a lot of unreleased tracks with guitars (just gotta do some vocals.....someday.....), but lately I haven't put any in, since I'm writing mainly for live performances now, and I don't want to use a guitar on stage. I've even gone as far as removing the guitar stuff from my older tracks and replacing them with synths for the live versions.

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Old 17-12-2013, 12:14 PM   #14
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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

Just checked back with the guys on the Mothership and they're concerned that the download button is broken. Not saying we're going to blow up your planet or anything but it might just come to that.

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Old 17-12-2013, 01:46 PM   #15
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No download 'till it's finished and put on some album or EP or something.

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We just vaporized New York.

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Re: [Electropunk] Life in Ruin

I found your song via the post "Roo recommends" and like the style

you dont push your voice to be all-harmonic and that's nice/original...As with the first chorus it all opens up.

However, here and there i do think your vocals need some work...maybe do some more takes and use the best parts

drums need volume as well...

nice vibe!
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I found your song via the post "Roo recommends" and like the style

you dont push your voice to be all-harmonic and that's nice/original...As with the first chorus it all opens up.

However, here and there i do think your vocals need some work...maybe do some more takes and use the best parts

drums need volume as well...

nice vibe!
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Thanks for checking it out, really! These vocals are just a temp track so I could get the timing for live shows. It was done in one take. I'll certainly get some better stuff in the future, but my PC is dead, so it'll be a while.

I've actually been really happy with my drum mixing as of late, but I have a feeling it's too quiet for most people's tastes.


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Btw this is definitely the best thing since, you know, THAT song.

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