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Old 27-09-2016, 02:43 PM   #41
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I usually start with a super clean dry lead sound, like a piano or sine lead, and try to lay out some good melodies and the flow of a song. I find that creating melodies is usually the hardest part for me, so I like to make sure that's solid before getting sucked into sound design, drum programming, and engineering. I have to exercise self control with this, otherwise I'll get super distracted with all the fun glittery stuff. I know if I move too fast into the sound design aspect without having a core song, I usually won't finish the track.

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Old 27-09-2016, 10:57 PM   #42
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I usually start by taking a big shit and dropping some heavy business in the sequencer.



Perc is usually the starting point and I'll often open up something like Battery 4, whack in a bunch of samples which I can use to fit around a kick and snare rhythm. I'll often cut up audio, even if it's bits of odd noise or a vocal or background hiss or what ever just to chop up and place around the sound to generate something more unusual and often organic.

This isn't always the case of course.

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Old 28-09-2016, 04:02 AM   #43
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

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So I sat down in the studio the other day with a producer friend to collab. The first thing he said was

"what kind of emotion are you feeling for this track?"

Personally, I've never been able to start a track this way. Maybe it's due to a lack of music theory and not knowing the relevant scales etc.. or maybe not at all! It's definitely got me thinking a lot about the differences in creative process.

It's tricky to explain the way I work, as I visualise a kind of sound-scape scene in my head and add more detail to it through adding new sounds. It's definitely a sinesthetic experience.

So I'm intrigued, how do YOU guys start a track?
I'm usually approaching a piece of my work with anger and humor combined. It usually comes down to the drums for me. I'll start off with polka or blast beats and add a synth/one shots. I used to crank the tempo up and sync quarters and 8ths. Then I got bored and I'd start doing all sorts of stuff in straight 16ths. Lately I've gotten crafty and tried making drum beats I typically wouldn't try (djent style etc) and syncing the synth with the kick and transients.

So i start off with drums most times.
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Old 28-09-2016, 12:03 PM   #44
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

remove humor and all you will get is 4x4 beat

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Old 28-09-2016, 01:00 PM   #45
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Sometimes. Idk, I feel like a lot of my older material sounded more alive than things I come up with now.
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Old 28-09-2016, 01:48 PM   #46
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Coffee, lots of it...

...seriously though, lots of coffee and then maybe some drums or a nice little 16th note sequence through some chords. Usually the best ideas tend to come out after I've been listening to other tracks for inspiration.

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Old 28-09-2016, 11:29 PM   #47
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I personally sometimes begin with just an intro, then i create the beat. Sometimes I start by first making the beat then the other track. And finally sometimes I just make a drop which later on is in the middle of the track. There is no specific way to start a track in my opinion, all you need is some creativity and not force yourself to create something.

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Old 29-09-2016, 06:01 AM   #48
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I always start with the drums. I like playing melody/harmony to a drum track as opposed to a metronome. Then I just let the track kind of build itself and layer stuff.
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Old 29-09-2016, 10:43 PM   #49
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

depends on how the drums are influenced on the track

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Old 04-10-2016, 07:10 PM   #50
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Hello everyone!
Usually I prefer to start a new track from the melody. Generally use a simple preset (Nexus).
this because for me the melody is the main part of the track. If the melody is amazing, probably the the result will be better.

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Old 05-10-2016, 03:30 PM   #51
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

An interesting topic, for sure.

My approach appears to be more common than I thought.

I don't write "conventional" songs to be honest. I've never been inspired by emotions or events. I wish that wasn't the case but I just don't have the skills.

My inspiration comes from sounds. Always has done, even before I ever thought of creating my own stuff.

So I will often start a new project and start messing in one of my soft synth, see if anything grooves my truffles.

I may start with a preset in Absynth and then tweak it so that it isn't easily recognised.

Effects are important to so I will often spend time experimenting with different stuff to see if anything interesting develops.

Doesn't always produce results but it is what I have always done.

If i do go into my DAW with any preconceived ideas then it is usually because I have been inspired by something else I have heard.

Or I may decide that I want to create a happy sequencer tune or a dark ambient sort of thing.

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Old 07-12-2016, 10:31 PM   #52
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Its always different. Sometimes you listen to some music, and then an idea comes to your head. Sometimes you open the DAW, start to play with different instruments and something comes out. It's always different
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:39 AM   #53
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Generally I start by building some core rhythms with 2-3 layered drums racks.
From there I sound design basses and plop em on.

From there it could go into acapellas, chords, or anything really.

Always lots of tea or coffee.
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Old 16-12-2016, 09:24 PM   #54
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I usually start by step-sequencing a bassline or twisting guitar tabs of a song like into some unrecognizable synth line, then lay down bass, then simple drums...2 or 3 pieces from a basic kit, then pads....then I give up cuz I suck.

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Old 25-12-2016, 10:43 AM   #55
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

Starting with drums rarely works out for me,

so first off I play with synths.

Once I got VSTs, tracks just bursted out like diarrhea. I like presets as I'm no good at creating decent sound from scratch, so a little tweak, knob or effect is good to turn the preset into my own sound.
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Old 17-01-2017, 11:07 PM   #56
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I start, often, in my pocket book of graph paper.


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Old 18-01-2017, 12:55 AM   #57
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

I'm pretty new to this but basically start with a chord progression then find a bassline sound by turning knobs like a monkey and build a bassline in tune with the chords then find a lead sound by turning knobs like before and make a lead in tune with the bassline then right click some knobs and automate the same filter every time and its basically a track.

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Old 21-01-2017, 02:13 PM   #58
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

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I usually start with picking a key and then coming up with a chord progression. Normally this turns out to be the main part of the tune. Then it is case of coming up with alternative progressions for the beginning and breakdown section.

Once this is in place the tune just tends to write itself for me.
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Old 22-01-2017, 12:26 AM   #59
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I usually start with picking a key and then coming up with a chord progression. Normally this turns out to be the main part of the tune. Then it is case of coming up with alternative progressions for the beginning and breakdown section.

Once this is in place the tune just tends to write itself for me.
Pretty much about how it usually goes for me.
Most of those above are the rhythm instrument's progression, with the main notations in my notes being focused on the arrangement order and the rhythm itself (those little -, |, and x marks are shorthand notes for rhythm behavior and I usually leave a note to myself about how long of a duration each square is so I can recall what kind of rhythm pattern I was thinking of).

And like you said, the rest tends to flow mostly naturally out of this baseline.

Sometimes, however, I might have a little 2 bar melody first and then go looking for the rhythm section arrangement to support it.

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Old 06-02-2017, 08:42 PM   #60
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Re: How do YOU start a track?

For me, its about the beat. When I've got a good 32 bars worth with fills and decent variance, thats when I will start adding synths... usually make the main hook and riff, then pad it all out a bit after.

Main section of the song comes first - intro, breaks and outro are the last parts of the track I work on except for mastering (which ironically takes up like 90% of the time when finishing a track off... electronic music isn't ever complete is it?)

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