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Old 19-02-2014, 06:58 AM   #41
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this is your own personal theory, right ?
I like the word discovery, above that. But I can also settle with theory, because that's the best we got next to hypothesis. Also, you want to be a scientist within psychology or something right? Then I would advice to go for the argument instead of the man, or switch to politics

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Old 19-02-2014, 07:48 AM   #42
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I asked this question because I was going to come back with sources and actual facts to counter your argument, but I felt it would be useless if you just "had this idea and decided it would be a fact"
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Old 19-02-2014, 07:50 AM   #43
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I asked this question because I was going to come back with sources and actual facts to counter your argument, but I felt it would be useless if you just "had this idea and decided it would be a fact"
Then make a thread about it, you're in the wrong hood. And trust me when I say that I'm tired of trying to show you forests when all you can ever see is trees.

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Old 19-02-2014, 10:37 AM   #44
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I believe Shame is a key instigator for the personality traits that manifest in rapists. Take pedophilia for instance, this is a very commonly shamed relationship that often creates violent reaction - a pedophile can not wake up one day and change who they are, it is far too deep a psychological trait. Shaming forces that person to essentially pretend to be something they aren't - because society will never accept the fact of consensual pedophile relationships.

Pretending to be something you aren't your entire life - believing things that aren't true about yourself - encourages you to believe other things that aren't true about yourself, especially when the serial shamer will stereotype you the moment the knowledge of your nature becomes apparent.

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My post was kind of flippant tbh but ok let's have a look at this.

Isn't shame just an extension of embarrassment?
It comes with living in a society with rules.
It's usually important that you understand the rules the society lives by to be successful within it and usually if you don't you get institutionalised either by prison or hospitalisation.
You don't have to actually be shamed to feel shame though.
A toddler can feel shame for shitting his pants before mum actually finds out, often it's how she finds out.
Blushing is the signaller to others that we know we've behaved inappropriately and is unique to humans. (or at least has not been observed in other apes)
I have no information about whether sex offenders blush or not or if they even feel remorse at all tbh.
I can agree that some people are born with desires not accepted by society, but I'm not going to go further and say that acting upon those should not be accompanied by shame or institutionalisation.
Perhaps some people are also born to be murderers?
But now we're getting into even murkier water about whether a chemical imbalance in an individual should be seen as a unique snowflake or crushed by society.
We're at the chicken and egg point.
It sounds like you're saying that rapists' behaviour stems from societal norms making them feel uncomfortable within themselves for having their natural (to them) desires which manifests itself in their behaviour. I'm saying that rapists have always existed against the wishes of the majority and society has dealt with it by shaming them and legislating to reinforce that.
You were probably right in the first place, to some degree we live in a culture of shame.
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Old 19-02-2014, 12:17 PM   #45
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Here's some more notes btw.. A short piece I wrote for bassoon and piano..

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People who knows how to write traditional notes, will prolly cringe at the way I wrote this, but hey, ask me if I give a flying gahoo

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Old 19-02-2014, 04:57 PM   #46
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Fucking hell.
You'll have to give me a sec man.
But I disagree with your first statement right off the bat tbh.
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Old 19-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #47
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Fucking hell.
You'll have to give me a sec man.
But I disagree with your first statement right off the bat tbh.
Oi, respond in PM please if you pick it apart! (It's already clunky and will only get bigger)

If you don't believe shame is something outside of yourself - you won't like my writing. :I

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Old 19-02-2014, 05:00 PM   #48
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Shame isn't how we enforce the law.
Prison or asylum is how we do that.

Is this going to all just come down to some subjective bs about whether or not our society is built the way you think it should be?
Because if so I'll probably just get out now.
I guess that's what I get for questioning someone's personal notes.
(and what you get for posting them)
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Old 19-02-2014, 05:01 PM   #49
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Shame isn't how we enforce the law.
Prison or asylum is how we do that.

Is this going to all just come down to some subjective bs about whether or not our society is built the way you think it should be?
Because if so I'll probably just get out now.
I guess that's what I get for questioning someone's personal notes.
(and what you get for posting them)
I'm not anti-government, anti-law, or utopian. I am anti-shame.
So no, this has nothing to do with how I believe society should be run. I am simply giving examples of shame culture in society based on my observations.

I'm also not trying to be antagonistic (just very dedicated)... If it's being read that way then yes definitely please get out now X3 lol

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Old 19-02-2014, 05:03 PM   #50
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Homosexuality for instance?
Saw that coming a mile off tbh, must try harder.
Also, it's probably not the best idea to align gays with peadophiles and rapists as most forward thinking is trying to do the opposite and condemn Russia's recent misgivings.
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Old 19-02-2014, 05:05 PM   #51
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Saw that coming a mile off tbh, must try harder.
Okay, yeah. When you plan on properly picking apart what I've written here and coming up with detailed responses, helping me understand your point of view - then send me a PM and I'll respond. Not here. Not anymore.

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Old 19-02-2014, 05:09 PM   #52
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I'm shaming you now, is that what you're saying?
How very clever.
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Old 19-02-2014, 05:30 PM   #53
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I can't be bothered to take a picture of it, but I scribble notes on the backs of old student essays as we are forced to keep portfolios of their work for 12 months after the course has ended. Which means I have crates of this junk (fire hazard much???) in my studio...because...you guessed it...the university doesn't provide us storage space.

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Old 19-02-2014, 05:35 PM   #54
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Here's some more notes btw.. A short piece I wrote for bassoon and piano..


People who knows how to write traditional notes, will prolly cringe at the way I wrote this, but hey, ask me if I give a flying gahoo
*cringe*

But just as a pianist.

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