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Old 21-11-2013, 02:45 AM   #1
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Tutorial: How to add variation to your drum loops

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I just finished a brand new tutorial on how to add variation to your drum loops. I hope you find it helpful and if you do please share it

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Old 27-11-2013, 12:43 PM   #2
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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

Thank you for the advice mate. I honestly find it quite difficult to add variation to percussion, especially in electronic music. Any percussion I record/create always ends up sounding like one constant loop. The way you put together your percussion is interesting, is it all sample based? I've only recently started trying to incorporate heavy electronic elements into my music, but I've only used VST's for percussion thus far. Would you say using samples has an advantage?
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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

I wouldn't call using samples an advantage. You have to use what sounds right for the song, whether it be MIDI or samples. There are some great drum VSTs out there; Superior Drummer to name one. What I often use is single-hit samples combined with loops. And often I will cut up those loops and rearrange them to make them more unique. It's a combination of using variation, layering, and I guess having good taste. And part of that taste comes with experience.

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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

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There are some great drum VSTs out there; Superior Drummer to name one.
Superior Drummer was my VST of choice, I've heard nothing but good things. I'm still learning the ins and outs of it. I'm not exactly new to creating percussion electronically per se, I have years of experience with Ableton, but my music is taking a turn where I'd much rather be creating it with a much heavier electronic element, and keeping the originality. Do you use Superior Drummer, and, if you do, how easy do you think it will for someone like myself to adapt "real instrument" skills, into electronic music?
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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

I prefer working w audio rather than MIDI in general...but when you bounce your drums to audio basic variation is just a matter of chopping and arranging the basic drum pattern youve made. I usually program my drums with Maschine anywhere from a 16 to 64 bar loop...then I bounce each sound as a full length track of audio. After that I chop and arrange those loops in my DAW.

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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

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I usually program my drums with Maschine anywhere from a 16 to 64 bar loop...then I bounce each sound as a full length track of audio. After that I chop and arrange those loops in my DAW.
Any reason? Just purely because you like the sound of Maschine, but prefer working with audio rather than MIDI?
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how easy do you think it will for someone like myself to adapt "real instrument" skills, into electronic music?
I think using midi is the easiest to transfer "real instrument" skills into the electronic realm, I record my drums live on a midi controller keyboard into midi, that is my base point for writing beats. I can also get percussion with more feel then just using the piano roll.

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I record my drums live on a midi controller keyboard into midi
Do you think investing in a midi controller with drum pads, is worth it? I already have a midi keyboard.
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Re: Tutorial: How to Add Variation to Your Drum Loops

after writing this post i started looking for one hahaha, I have a keyboard and an APC, I think i'de be allot less awkward with a controller that uses drum sticks. I couldn't find one to do only what I want and not be riddle with loads of features I don't need (hence making it too expensive)

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I couldn't find one to do only what I want and not be riddle with loads of features I don't need (hence making it too expensive)
These were my thoughts exactly. I think I mentioned in a previous post, I've only recently started incorporating (heavy) electronic elements into my music anyway, so it's probably best to learn the basics before shelling out tons of money. Thanks for the advice mate.
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Re: Tutorial: How to add variation to your drum loops

While we're on the subject of using a midi controller keyboard to program drums, how do you control the latency? Recently I've had my drummer and keyboardist recording and everything is slightly behind the actual time.

It's gotten to the point where it is easier to use the piano roll, which I agree that you lose the 'feel' of the rhythm. I'm using Ableton and my interface is a Focusrite Saffire 6. I have a USB midi controller (M-Audio 61 key).
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Re: Tutorial: How to add variation to your drum loops

I have the latency set to 64 samples when recording, the delay is so small (i think its something like 3-5ms) that I can't notice it.

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