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Old 26-07-2017, 02:30 PM   #1
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IDMf048- Dark Techno/IDM

Welcome to the IDMf0XX Dark techno/idm compilation

Greetings Mf'ers, its that time again. You are invited to submit a piece of music to be considered for inclusion on the next IDMf release. This time we explore the darker side of techno and idm, imagine rave parties in massive Berlin warehouses, glitchy beats in abandoned factories, echoing beats to accompany Skynet's awakening...

There is a change from previous competitions which has no impact on the process or method of submission but of which you need to be aware (It is number 4 on the list below).

Read the following rules carefully:

1) By submitting an entry for the competition you are confirming that you have read and understood all the rules. (well, duh)

2) Peak audio level is -6DB (TBC). Yup, 6DB Headroom. Any entries with less than this at any point in the track will not be accepted. "My dog ate my mixing levels" is not an acceptable excuse, nor is "I was channeling Kanye".

3) No plugins on your master channel. That includes compression and limiting. There should be no FX whatsoever on the master channel. Entries that are accepted for release on the Netlabel will be mastered and anything you put on the master channel will mess this up. Tracks with Master channel FX will not be accepted.

4) Once you submit your entry for the competition, you are giving the IDMf NetLabel exclusive rights to publish the track. You are making a commitment that you will not send the submitted track to anyone else for publication and that you will not release it yourself. If not selected for the release, all rights pass back to you on the day the album is released. If you submit an entry for the competition it is taken as confirmation that you have read and understand this.

5) Include a contact email address in the info part of the track along with a clear indication that it is for the compilation.

6) Include a contact email address in the info part of the track along with a clear indication that it is for the compilation. Yeh, really, this one went in twice.

7) All tracks submitted must be shared privately from a soundcloud link to the label email here: [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]
. Any not privately shared or those that have been public before with many plays and/or downloads will automatically disqualify you from the compilation selection process.
If you don't have a soundcloud account, other streaming services are fine as long as they offer equal ease and functionality to soundcloud - namely the ability to preview the track, the ability to share privately, and the ability to download the track in full lossless quality.

8) All tracks must be submitted in WAV or AIFF format, with a minimum quality of 44100/24bit sample rate.

9) When you create the file for your track (before uploading) name it with your full artist name, track title and forum name too. AGAIN MAKE SURE TO DO THIS OR YOUR SUB MAY WELL GET LOST AND FORGOTTEN. Have some professionalism with your final master for submission please. If we can't keep track of who subbed what, good tracks might get left off.

10) No remixes. No copyrighted content. This seems like a no-brainer but you'd be surprised.

11) Include a contact email address in the info part of the track along with a clear indication that it is for the compilation. Three times now, has it gone in yet? I bet for a few it still hasn't



All entries are to be received by the IDMf netlabel no later than 11:59pm 22/09/2017 UK summertime (GMT+1). Note: Received, not sent.

If you have difficulty working out what time of day that is (this is not sarcasm, people in different time-zones often have problems), make sure to submit at least the day before. Don't waste anyone's time arguing if you submit late, the trolls that wear the mantle of moderator will find you adorable but dismiss your entry. Pointing and laughing may ensue.

We receive a lot of submissions for these compilations so be aware that any entries not meeting the above requirements may mean your music will not be considered. It is 100% YOUR responsibility to make sure you do this. Don't shoot yourself in the foot after working so hard on your music.

We're very much looking forward to hearing what everyone comes up with over the next couple of months. Good luck all!

Some examples are posted below, please don't take any of these suggestions as dogma more like setting the scene.




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Old 26-07-2017, 02:30 PM   #2
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

And here's the tracklist (track order still tbc).
Congrats to all winners and submitters.
A note to those we didn't make the cut, the songs were good, they just didn't really fit in.

Brb - The great detractor

Mysta FX (MFXxx) Buddha Rook

Creepr - 38 After

Dada Davros - Mind Over Cryptography

Erstav - Silver

InTheHam - Only Moments

James Pingel (White Noise) - Lanthanide

Jazzyspoon - I lost Perspective

NeuNeuNeuReceuver (Schnork) - eekzron

Oatbag - Swarm

Silent Strangers - Polaris

Roo Stercogburn - Techish Delight

Sitechain (metaside) - revelation

Sole Massif - Visionaire - Yes

Sons Of Achab - Bayesian networks

The Teknomage - In Celeste's basement

Tinnitus of Science - Intermatter

[We sell boxes] (FTD) Separate Rooms

Chase Dobson - Operator Error

Claymore - Known Enemy

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Old 26-07-2017, 02:43 PM   #3
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

Reserved for ... well, lets see what happens.
Great project and good to see some label activity up
A good opportunity to focus on quality and production value. Looking forward to hearing the subs.

Just had a chuckle at your avatar line "Less Kids, more synths"...guess I should have told the Mrs to get more plugins!!!

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Old 26-07-2017, 03:07 PM   #4
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

Dig man. So right up my alley. I'll be submitting to this for sure. Very nice choice genre-wise for the NetLabel's comeback effort and it'll be out in time for winter--need those cold beats for the dark days :p

Thanks to the IDMf A Team for getting this together.

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Old 26-07-2017, 03:37 PM   #5
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

Awesome!!

Will definitely create a song to submit for this. Techno/IDM sounds like a pretty fun combo tbh!

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Old 26-07-2017, 05:17 PM   #6
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Old 26-07-2017, 06:52 PM   #7
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Old 26-07-2017, 08:50 PM   #9
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

Sounds interesting..going to think about this one and see if I can come up with something worth submitting first..not really much experience with this genre, but how hard can it be?

One thing..just looking for clarification here..not criticizing at all..but the forth point..

4) Once you submit your entry for the competition, you are giving the IDMf NetLabel exclusive rights to publish the track. You are making a commitment that you will not send the submitted track to anyone else for publication and that you will not release it yourself. If not selected for the release, all rights pass back to you on the day the album is released. If you submit an entry for the competition it is taken as confirmation that you have read and understand this.

Just wondering..is there a time-scale on this "exclusive rights to publish" clause, meaning are we excluded from including such a track on a compilation album of our own? What about any possible royalties earned from sales or licensing? If all these "things" are going to be exploited, then this needs to be clarified a little more..as there's a bit of a difference between releasing and publishing.

No negativity here at all..just think this is an important point that needs to covered in a little more depth than it has, as not everyone is going to understand the difference between the two and need to be made aware of where they stand and what it is they are agreeing to.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the label before just ask for exclusive rights to release a track if it was up to par and accepted?

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Old 27-07-2017, 03:30 AM   #10
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

I'm kinda shocked this hasn't gotten more traction yet. Come on ya'll, lets kick it old school IDMf and make this a great one <3

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Old 27-07-2017, 03:32 AM   #11
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I'm really excited to hear this.

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Old 27-07-2017, 03:37 AM   #12
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Re: IDMf0xx- Dark Techno/IDM

We'll see, last time I tried to make dark techno, I ended up covering Aerodynamic.

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We'll see, last time I tried to make dark techno, I ended up covering Aerodynamic.
All you need is some drums, weird sound FX, and two filtered chord stabs with an 8th note delay on a send. Then just ride the faders

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Old 27-07-2017, 06:42 AM   #14
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Sounds interesting..going to think about this one and see if I can come up with something worth submitting first..not really much experience with this genre, but how hard can it be?

One thing..just looking for clarification here..not criticizing at all..but the forth point..

4) Once you submit your entry for the competition, you are giving the IDMf NetLabel exclusive rights to publish the track. You are making a commitment that you will not send the submitted track to anyone else for publication and that you will not release it yourself. If not selected for the release, all rights pass back to you on the day the album is released. If you submit an entry for the competition it is taken as confirmation that you have read and understand this.

Just wondering..is there a time-scale on this "exclusive rights to publish" clause, meaning are we excluded from including such a track on a compilation album of our own? What about any possible royalties earned from sales or licensing? If all these "things" are going to be exploited, then this needs to be clarified a little more..as there's a bit of a difference between releasing and publishing.

No negativity here at all..just think this is an important point that needs to covered in a little more depth than it has, as not everyone is going to understand the difference between the two and need to be made aware of where they stand and what it is they are agreeing to.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the label before just ask for exclusive rights to release a track if it was up to par and accepted?


That hasn't changed, if the track is not accepted all rights pass back to you the day the compilation is released.

As for royalties, how much do you think any of the previous releases made?

And I'm sure that if any of the artists wants to rerelease the track separately in the future, it's just a matter of asking, nobody's here to stop anyone's career...

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Old 27-07-2017, 08:57 AM   #15
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Did some tentative sound design with this in mind last night.

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That hasn't changed, if the track is not accepted all rights pass back to you the day the compilation is released.

As for royalties, how much do you think any of the previous releases made?

And I'm sure that if any of the artists wants to rerelease the track separately in the future, it's just a matter of asking, nobody's here to stop anyone's career...
My reason for asking has more to do with clarification than anything else..but you're question about earnings made on past releases kinda makes me think you've misunderstood what I'm asking here. It's not really about earnings at all..but the artist's rights in general.

What I mean is I personally don't have any issue..and I don't think anyone else should either..about the label making whatever profit it can from any release it puts out..and I believe any artist being released by the label should feel obligated to get behind the label and support it in whatever way they can..it's a partnership of sorts after all.

But what happens in the remote event where the artist manages to land a lucrative deal for his work, but he can't do anything about it because all rights have been passed over to the label? Should s/he just pass any info in situations like this to the label and let it deal with everything?

Again, I'm not trying to be negative or stir up shit about anything..I'm honestly just seeking a more complete explanation of this forth clause, in order that others on here will learn from it and take some information of real value away from here with them when they leave..something they should and need to know as producers.

It's not rocket science..all we need is to be a little clearer about where we all generally stand and what's expected of both sides if all publishing rights are to handed over. As it is, there's no mention of possible payments coming back to the artist from any earnings..no matter how small. There's no mention of percentages or anything else the artist should know up front before jumping into any contract..either here or elsewhere.

Basically, it might be better for everyone if a more formal, detailed, standard form of label contract were drawn up and made sticky, so it could be read or downloaded by anyone who wants to submit anything for consideration..something that clearly outlines all terms and rates, as well as what's expected of both parties..with the obligatory "No earnings are either implied or guaranteed" statement in bold at the end, for all to see.

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My reason for asking has more to do with clarification than anything else..but you're question about earnings made on past releases kinda makes me think you've misunderstood what I'm asking here. It's not really about earnings at all..but the artist's rights in general.

What I mean is I personally don't have any issue..and I don't think anyone else should either..about the label making whatever profit it can from any release it puts out..and I believe any artist being released by the label should feel obligated to get behind the label and support it in whatever way they can..it's a partnership of sorts after all.

But what happens in the remote event where the artist manages to land a lucrative deal for his work, but he can't do anything about it because all rights have been passed over to the label? Should s/he just pass any info in situations like this to the label and let it deal with everything?

Again, I'm not trying to be negative or stir up shit about anything..I'm honestly just seeking a more complete explanation of this forth clause, in order that others on here will learn from it and take some information of real value away from here with them when they leave..something they should and need to know as producers.

It's not rocket science..all we need is to be a little clearer about where we all generally stand and what's expected of both sides if all publishing rights are to handed over. As it is, there's no mention of possible payments coming back to the artist from any earnings..no matter how small. There's no mention of percentages or anything else the artist should know up front before jumping into any contract..either here or elsewhere.

Basically, it might be better for everyone if a more formal, detailed, standard form of label contract were drawn up and made sticky, so it could be read or downloaded by anyone who wants to submit anything for consideration..something that clearly outlines all terms and rates, as well as what's expected of both parties..with the obligatory "No earnings are either implied or guaranteed" statement in bold at the end, for all to see.
You're right to ask, I have no problem with that at all.
Usually record deals come with a time frame and region that the label will take the rights for, say perhaps 5 years covering Europe or whatever.
Perhaps we should say that it's exclusive for 1 year and worldwide then?
Meaning that you don't give it to anyone else without prior consent from IDMf, we have the right to do whatever with it for 1 year anywhere on the planet.
After that people can take their rights back and release the same thing somewhere else if they wish to.
So basically, if you think you're on the edge of getting that awesome mega deal with Warp, then please don't send those exact same tracks to IDMf. We really don't need to go through the trouble of putting a release together just to have it pulled out from under us a few days/weeks/months later.

Good idea about the basic contract.
The thing is we don't have the money to enforce any contracts if we're being completely real and honest.
Releasing through IDMf is basically a gentlemans agreement at the end of the day and so it really comes down to 'how much do you care if you piss us off after we try to help promote your music?'
We've had one person that I know of over the 47 releases who asked us to remove his music from IDMf related sites because he'd got a better contract.
I'm not too worried about it really, but yes, let's hammer out some better details and sticky them for future subs.
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Cheers for that, lol..appreciate the reply and understanding in regards to my questioning in the first place.

"..Perhaps we should say that it's exclusive for 1 year and worldwide then?"

I go a little further and say it's exclusive to the label for 1 year and worldwide..meaning the label has full rights to do whatever it likes with the track / album for 1 year and share in any profits earned during that time.regardless of the source.

Then, after that 1 year has expired, all rights return to the artist, as you said, but I'd still include that the label be granted special rights to continue to sell the album and earn from all sales it makes..or something like that. This way the artist is freed to do whatever the hell they like, but the label still benefits from knock-on sales in the event the artist in question "makes it big"..I think this is only fair, given the role the label would have played in getting the artist "discovered".

I know the chances of anything like this happening might be slim, but there's still a chance that this could happen for somebody on here..and it would be better if everyone knew in advance just how things would work..hence my asking for clarification in the first place.

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But we're not selling music, we're giving it away free.
Where's the obsession with cash suddenly come from?
Any donations to help support IDMf are just that.
We're not about to start accounting to 30 people for each compilation just to give everyone a split of 12 bucks or whatever it is.
The mod team don't get paid.
Please don't try to complicate things further.

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