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Old 20-10-2014, 08:39 PM   #1
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Convolution Plugins

Anybody use convolution based plugins like CD Soundmaster or Nebula?

Do you feel there is an advantage over algorithmic plugs?

Also have you found there to be any disadvantages?

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Old 20-10-2014, 08:50 PM   #2
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Re: Convolution Plugins

I use SIR2. It's good to have real places at a click of a button. It's also fun for experimentation and sound design (loading your own samples as impulses).

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Re: Convolution Plugins

i think the Convolution Reverb Pro from Max for (Ableton) Live is awesome.
Convolution sounds really awesome and there is more diversity than a normal reverb.
You can get some whacky sounding stuff if you use random samples as impulses that aren't mean to be used as impulses.
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Re: Convolution Plugins

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i think the Convolution Reverb Pro from Max for (Ableton) Live is awesome.
Convolution sounds really awesome and there is more diversity than a normal reverb.
You can get some whacky sounding stuff if you use random samples as impulses that aren't mean to be used as impulses.
Haven't really tried the Max job. TBH I was referring to convolution based EQ, compressors preamps and such. Like Acustica-Audio's Blue or Trinity
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Re: Convolution Plugins

Reverberate LE is a very nice free convolution plugin. It's actually a light version of a commercial plugin but it's very capable and quite complete. You can adjust the reverb time settings, stretch etc.. and it also comes with a 5 band parametric equalizer which does the job well.

highly recommended if you're looking for free stuff. I used to work with the free version of SIRII but it has a huge delay (that's mostly where they put the limitation), making it unusable if you want to record some stuff live.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

I like convolution reverb pro and Izotope Trash for reverb, and for loading cabinet responses, nadIR and Amplifikation One. I've never really encountered any disadvantages, considering there are so many sites offering impulse responses for free.
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Re: Convolution Plugins

I second Evelon's suggestion for IR2. It's great! FL also has a built in convolution reverb called "convolver." I think convolution reverbs have an advantage if you want to make sounds "match." For instance, if you have a bunch of orchestral sounds and you have the impulse response of the rooms that they were recorded in, you can put that on anything else in your mix. As far as overall advantages compared to other reverbs, it really depends on each project and the type of sound you're going for and what sounds good to you.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

Not sure if this thread is still active but I've started using Acustica Nebula and Acqua plugs a while ago. Nebula technology has since become a bit of an obsession of mine and left quite a dent in my pocket,.
It can achieve sonic gold that in my experience is very unique and different to algo plugs. I'd go as far as saying better, but it depends on the situation really. E.g I also use Uhe Satin, which is awesome, yet the Nebula CD soundmaster tapes or even the stock library tapes, often achieve better, if more subtle, results.
There are console emulations available, from Neve to SSL to Toft, which recreate the dynamics, panorama and harmonic distortion of top notch desks.
For sound design generally I use algo plugs and for more subtle acoustic tasks I tend to use nebula nowadays.
Disadvantages are CPU intensity, though with my new studio pc, 6 months old I've not had too many issues, most of the compressor emulations are good only for colouring/subtle compression (thou the new acqua comps are great), and it can be quite addicitve to mix ITB with the sound of a manley passive eq and Neve console....
I could go on for pages, but I suggest trying the free acqua plugs from the nebula website and the free version of nebula.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

In the past I was lucky enough to find a collection of really wierd-sounding IR's and it really helped me to get some pro effect sounds in my tunes. But this year I've had a hard time finding any IR's that aren't just the typical halls and rooms.

Since I hardly ever use reverb, I end up hardly using convolution. But it kind of ticks me off because it's clearly a sophisticated technology that is so inexpensive to implement with freewares.

I have a good collection of IR's for reverb, and I edited the WAV's to make them sound even better, but until I find some good experimental ones, I probably won't use any of them.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

With that in mind, maybe we should start an IR thread on here, where members can post links to good IRs they come across..just an idea.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

there is a convolution processor in the Reaktor user library called Viva la Convolution. high cpu but its pretty cool to have that in there.
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Re: Convolution Plugins

Just want to mention LiquidSonics Reverberate 2. Live 9 users are lucky having M4L Convolution Reverb Pro that's obviously not only can be used for reverb purposes. Reverberate 2 has similar and more parameters to choose from: that includes more in-built LFOs that can be assigned for different effect. However, if you have M4L Convolution Reverb Pro, you also get this MIDI LFO device (both comes with M4L Essentials pack) that you just can add it to your rack, as many as you want (obviously CPU gets a hard hit). Then also assign these LFOs to any parameter, except for those which shape IRs before the whole convolution process.

Also, NI Reflektor (expansion for Guitar Rig 5) comes to my mind, but I don't recommend it because it lacks of control comparing with other similar plugins, most of them offers way more: from IR pre-EQ / editing, multiple LFO automation and IR loading. No chance in Reflektor, unless you edit IR before using it with other tools. But that doesn't stopping you putting in any other effect after it that is in GR5. It sounds really good and if you like things more simpler it's a choice, also more CPU friendly, because not much of happening here. Reflektor is also good for cabinet emulation, alternatively - NadIR, which is free.

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Re: Convolution Plugins

The convolution reverb in Cubase is one of the great Convolutions I've used, and it can do surround sound.

Another one I really like is 2c-Aether.
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Re: Convolution Plugins

I use the convolution verb from Max for live and I find it to be quite fun to go record my own impulse responses and import them in. In general, I find convolution to be better when going for a very realistic, clean sounding reverb although that is not always the case. There are also many ways these plugins can be used for crazy sound design. Start with any of the "experimental" spaces in the Max for live plugin.
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Re: Convolution Plugins

I agree that convolution can be used for some nice sound effects.
Some of the best sound effects I have ever heard were generated by some freeware impulse responses that I can no longer find on the web anymore. I think they were from some really old Classic MacOS program. And I don't use a Mac.

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