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Old 04-04-2014, 01:46 PM   #1
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so yeah, i've been looking for a way to do this again recently, and it makes sense to do it through ustream, now there's no way i'm (or anyone) is payng $99 a mnth for a pro plan, so i'm cool with the idea of ads in the stream if it means we can get ths going. I've never used ustream before - i'm sure some here have - but it's piss easy ad flash based. you don't have to use a webcam but it does help from experience with keeping people engaged more with what you're doing.

Anyway who's interested in doing a regular show? weekly/fortnightly or monthy. the main thing is YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR SHOW IF YU ARE GOING T DO THIS so don't commit to what you can't. to a certain degree i can also get a stream of netlabel music playing when there isn't a show on too so the channel won't be dead **hopefully* the majority of the time.


so yeah, if you have an interest in doing this, or can help out in other ways then get involved!

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Old 04-04-2014, 02:03 PM   #2
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Re: the ressurrection of IDMf Radio?

Watching this closely. Just set up Maschine with Traktor, but I haven't mixed records in ages. I might be up for doing something monthly after I have some time to practice.

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Old 04-04-2014, 02:06 PM   #3
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I should also point out that mixing isn't an ability that is necessary. i'd be happy with someone just presenting and playing tunes tbh
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I should also point out that mixing isn't an ability that is necessary. i'd be happy with someone just presenting and playing tunes tbh
Well, shit, I guess I am all out of excuse then. I'd be happy to start out doing something once a month. My schedule can shift a lot through out the year, but I would say Sunday is a pretty safe day for me most of the time.

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Re: the ressurrection of IDMf Radio?

Might seem inappropriate to apply for this since I'm not a huge member of the community, neither a good producer. But I like this community and I'd be happy to help. I could do some speedpainting things while playing some idmf sounds or other idm music and draw some stuff inspired by what I hear. I'm affraid its a bit unrelated tho, maybe later if it gets bigger ? Anyways I love to share sounds and I love to draw so why not, just tell me.
Btw there are some drawing softwares that features sound inputs that influence the thickness of the line, stuff like that. Might be interesting.
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Old 04-04-2014, 06:48 PM   #6
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I'd love to set up a weekly time to DJ again, but not so much with the organizing of the new system (I'm not domme enough to make sure everything but my own gig runs swimmingly on a regular basis). I really do want to see it happen again though and would really appreciate an opportunity to noodle around on the stream especially since I have new equipment. (I've also picked up just about everything on the idmf bandcamp since then as well)

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Anyway who's interested in doing a regular show? weekly/fortnightly or monthy. the main thing is YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR SHOW IF YU ARE GOING T DO THIS so don't commit to what you can't. t
Could we maybe consider an open slot each week that someone can fill if they want? Just think it would be nice to give ppl a chance to get a feel for it rather than them never trying because they're freaked out about making a commitment. Can ppl commit to a period like a month too? Also we gonna have to pester stu for a banner or some kind of on-air notification. Else it just goes unnoticed again.
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Old 04-04-2014, 07:16 PM   #8
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Could we maybe consider an open slot each week that someone can fill if they want? Just think it would be nice to give ppl a chance to get a feel for it rather than them never trying because they're freaked out about making a commitment. Can ppl commit to a period like a month too? Also we gonna have to pester stu for a banner or some kind of on-air notification. Else it just goes unnoticed again.
This is a good call IMO. This is partially why I made the low ball offer of a monthly show. I figured if the first one was shit I had apprx 30 days to get myself together for the next, lol.

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Old 04-04-2014, 07:31 PM   #9
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Could we maybe consider an open slot each week that someone can fill if they want? Just think it would be nice to give ppl a chance to get a feel for it rather than them never trying because they're freaked out about making a commitment. Can ppl commit to a period like a month too? Also we gonna have to pester stu for a banner or something. Else it just goes unnoticed again.
Couple things about these concerns,

One is that this is another good reason to have someone with spare time to help manage the whole shebang. If we need someone who can take care of people completely new to streaming - it takes time and work and you need someone to provide live feedback (i.e. "can you hear the stream?", "what software are you using", "how is your encoder set up")

Yes, Benwaa mentioned in the op that you could commit to a period of a month, unless he edited that in later on. "who's interested in doing a regular show? weekly/fortnightly or monthy"

The thing about adding something like a "bannner" to the website means we need to know exactly what we want, how we're going to implement it, and dead set on keeping it there - and we all need to agree on it. It would be easier to modify the sidebar I'm thinking?

What it comes down to is that if people aren't willing to make the commitment or it's going to "freak them" (it's not a whole lot of commitment, mind you, it is however somewhat specialised knowledge) or interrupt with their regular schedule - then maybe they shouldn't! Not meant in a negative way of course, but it works better as an opportunity for people who are dead set on providing entertainment to have a regular schedule as opposed to a system for teaching people how to stream.

If we're going to do an open slot for "whomever" to jump on? There are a few issues with that, one being giving the stream information to "whomever" that they may interrupt on the stream "whenever" (depending on how the service handles that), we won't want people fighting over stream control so we'll need someone to moderate for those timeslots if problems arise in it.

I feel like I've typed a lot... These are just what I think about when it comes to making it work happily. :3

I mean, take with a fistful of salt.

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Old 04-04-2014, 07:39 PM   #10
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The thing about adding something like a "bannner" to the website means we need to know exactly what we want, how we're going to implement it, and dead set on keeping it there - and we all need to agree on it. It would be easier to modify the sidebar I'm thinking?
Ugh, see this wouldn't even work, we would need a popup of some kind yeah. I mean we tried having a whole forum for it to generate some of it's own advertising and view-wise it seemed to be working, but most of the feedback was from die-hards and it didn't seem like many new folks were saying anything.

I just, personally the last thing I want to see is random advertising for radio shows in off topic, side room, or even other threads.

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Old 05-04-2014, 06:38 AM   #11
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Could we maybe consider an open slot each week that someone can fill if they want? Just think it would be nice to give ppl a chance to get a feel for it rather than them never trying because they're freaked out about making a commitment. Can ppl commit to a period like a month too? Also we gonna have to pester stu for a banner or some kind of on-air notification. Else it just goes unnoticed again.
Well tbh I'd like to confirm definite shows to give a regularity to something at least, I can't see every hour being filled no matter what so in the off times would be the perfect time for anyone to jump on for a test or impromptu performance etc etc but obviously in a moderated fashion. Broton brings up a good point about handing the stream info out to just anyone too. so hopefully that would cover that part. I'm sure fid would be able to install the on air thing for us, broton worked a way to do that before so I'm sure it can't be too different. Possibly replace the totally redundant shout box with whatever it is that's needed.

Anyway, ATM this is more putting out the feelers to see if it's worth doing at all and if anyone would commit to keeping it regular, I'm not gonna invest the time or encourage others to do so if only one or two of us will actually do a live show on a regular basis.
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Old 05-04-2014, 11:31 AM   #12
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Well tbh I'd like to confirm definite shows to give a regularity to something at least, I can't see every hour being filled no matter what so in the off times would be the perfect time for anyone to jump on for a test or impromptu performance etc etc but obviously in a moderated fashion. Broton brings up a good point about handing the stream info out to just anyone too. so hopefully that would cover that part. I'm sure fid would be able to install the on air thing for us, broton worked a way to do that before so I'm sure it can't be too different. Possibly replace the totally redundant shout box with whatever it is that's needed.
Cool - I'm really just wondering what we can do different this time, because else it's probably gonna end the way it did last time. Without some kind of exposure or something else I don't really see the point tbh. If fid and broton42892032-01 could look at a on-air system that would be great. I guess the live webcam thing also adds something nice to it.

My little experience with it the last time: Getting the routing out of Live for a proper Dj set with headphone queuing and setting up all the tracks etc. took a bit of work and it sucked having 0 - 1 listeners at any given time. Also I'm happy to actually make time to support someone who's playing a live set, especially if there's a webcam, but I really cba to actually make time to listen to someone play through a winamp playlist. If I'm at work or something or its the weekend then I'll happily tune in to the stream, but I'm not gonna specifically make an effort to tune in the same way I would if they were doing something live (controllers, decks, ipad etc.)

But yeah - I'd be up for setting things up and having a go at it - I still had loads of fun with it the last time .
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Old 05-04-2014, 12:00 PM   #13
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this way is flash based so it's a case of allowing the player access to your webcam (if you have one) and chosen soundcard a lot easier than before. there's no extra software to install or anything. you could install manycam on windows or camtwist on mac to help refine the camera stuff and/or add text and graphics to the stream if need be.
but yeah i digress slightly.
I'll get around to setting the station up later tonight and do a test see how it goes
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Old 05-04-2014, 03:39 PM   #15
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was also just thinking that live interviews would be good too, the way this is set up means it *should* be possible to route skype through it too, at the very worst it'd be simple via audio
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ok so i'm probably in one, but here's the stream as it stands at the mo. sorry about the lack of video at the moment, i'll sort that out soon enough was thinking of playlisting some silent moves or something for the video with the IDMf audio when it's not a live dj on

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What ever the music/video combo is at this moment is disturbing together. Thanks Ben. Looks like this will be awesome : ) Is Ustream what UGS Radio uses?

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was also just thinking that live interviews would be good too, the way this is set up means it *should* be possible to route skype through it too, at the very worst it'd be simple via audio
I'm not much for DJ'ing, playing live sets, or even streaming winamp playlists but interviews are q different story. I'd be willing to commit to doing some sort of interview series, like one half hour to 45min IDMf related interview per month, provided we could route skype through the stream. It could also be recorded then posted in our interview thread so folks who miss the show could hear it at any point in time.

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What ever the music/video combo is at this moment is disturbing together. Thanks Ben. Looks like this will be awesome : ) Is Ustream what UGS Radio uses?


nah, ugs is a custom coded flash set up

I've added two films to a playlist to give some vid to the tunes

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Been looking/sounding/working fine for me so far as a spectator. What bitrate is the audio streaming at?

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