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Old 17-12-2016, 12:38 PM   #1
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Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

So you can go back later and expand on the generic sound you put there. Anybody else do this, or should I really try something else for my work flow while making a song? Im not talking about sounds that are nearly done... I mean sounds that are on the cheesy side that just in the "ballpark".

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Old 17-12-2016, 05:36 PM   #2
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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

for melodic parts, absolutely. during the initial composition stage, i just straight up work with the simplest single voice sine/saw wave patches, maybe with a quick amp envelope adjustment. keeps me from getting distracted by sound design at this stage. after the arrangement is done and i get to orchestration, maybe i'll decide that line is best be played by guitar. so crafting some nice patch would have been a waste of time (or, worse, would influence my decision to keep the patch just because i worked hard on it and not because it suits the track the most).
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Old 17-12-2016, 06:27 PM   #3
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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

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for melodic parts, absolutely. during the initial composition stage, i just straight up work with the simplest single voice sine/saw wave patches, maybe with a quick amp envelope adjustment. keeps me from getting distracted by sound design at this stage. after the arrangement is done and i get to orchestration, maybe i'll decide that line is best be played by guitar. so crafting some nice patch would have been a waste of time (or, worse, would influence my decision to keep the patch just because i worked hard on it and not because it suits the track the most).
this can work pretty well, Imalso use this method often

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Old 17-12-2016, 07:42 PM   #4
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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

Yea I'd say you can't go wrong with this method. You can also make some generic patches for each type of sound and just have them in a template for composing. Strings, bass, lead, etc.

you literally can't write a song and design patches at the same time, so I guess you have to prioritize based on what's important for you. If sound design is most important for you, it might make sense to focus on it on the front end and let it shape the composition. And vise versa of course

Personally I like to change up my process frequently as I will give me different results.

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Yea I'd say you can't go wrong with this method. You can also make some generic patches for each type of sound and just have them in a template for composing. Strings, bass, lead, etc.

you literally can't write a song and design patches at the same time, so I guess you have to prioritize based on what's important for you. If sound design is most important for you, it might make sense to focus on it on the front end and let it shape the composition. And vise versa of course

Personally I like to change up my process frequently as I will give me different results.
Spot on. If I care more about melody and harmony I work this way. If I care more about evolving textures I start w sound design.

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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

I find if I don't make the sound I want when the inspiration hits, I'll almost never actually go back. Why would I see it through later when I'm even less inspired?

But if the goal was a certain kind of melody, and the sound doesn't matter as much, then it's fine.
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I give the Region a pink Color, so it hurts my eyes and I have to come back and polish it adequately in the near future.
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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

yea i do this all the time.
i know i want a certain sound in a certain place but i know if i start making that sound it will take me days and i will loose my workflow, so i throw something similar in its place and come back later to design that part.
i wouldnt describe those temporary parts as cheesy though, just whatever is in my samples collection, a preset or basic waveform that is similar to what i want.

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Re: Sound Design: Do You Add Unpolished Sounds As A Marker?

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I find if I don't make the sound I want when the inspiration hits, I'll almost never actually go back. Why would I see it through later when I'm even less inspired?

But if the goal was a certain kind of melody, and the sound doesn't matter as much, then it's fine.
yea this can happen to me. it will almost certainly not be what i originally had in mind, but that doesnt necessarily mean it will be worse than what i originally had in mind. by that time ive forgotten what was originally in my mind anyway XD

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I give the Region a pink Color, so it hurts my eyes and I have to come back and polish it adequately in the near future.
no need, it will hurt your ears if you dont

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