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Old 11-01-2015, 08:46 PM   #1
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Frustration with rhythm that made me quit making music. Any advice?

Hello,

I studied some years ago music production in a school for 3 years but honestly, it was very crappy and they taught me only the basics and they took 3 years to teach things that, with a good teaching, anybody would have learned in 1 year or less. I learned more by myself with hours and hours with the Cubase, analyzing songs I like, making sound tests, composing songs, etc... Nobody in the schools or even in forums answer my questions and I think there are still a lot of important things I don't know about music making that made me got stucked and frustrated. I feel it's something like if I'm trying to make a picture without knowing something as basic as you must think from which side come the light to put the shadows in it.

I think I know enough about chords, scales, etc... I'm satisfied with my music theory knowledge, it's enough to compose or analyze the songs I like, mainly game music, pop, rock... Even I can play the keyboard a little. That solves the melodic part of the music composition and saves me a lot of time.

My problem is not about the place of the notes talking about harmony, it's about placing them in the time, it's with the rhythm. I always have listen to the songs paying attention to the melodic part, even the most subtle ones like the bass lines and not main melodic parts. But the drums, percussions and rhythm in general usually was nothing I focus in.

For example, if I copy by ear a song I like, I have no much problem analysing the chords, copying the melody, the bass line, and so on, but drums and percussion are difficult to me. Same thing when I'm composing an original song (something I've not done in years), I have problems with the drums and the rhythm in general. I mean, not only the percussion, sometimes also placing instrument notes in time. Some notes seem to "brake" the song instead let it flowing.

That totally frustrates me because I know I'm making mistakes because there are a lot of things about the rhythm that simply I don't know and usually nobody teach. Maybe someones can say that rhythm is about feeling, but I remember when I didn't know chords, for example, and I spent hours thinking the harmony of the song, maybe I could put an A in the bass by ear, then in the next beat a G, without knowing I was intending to make the typical Am-G chord progression. When I knowed that theory, I saved a lot of time and effort that frustrated me a lot. So, when I listen to the songs I like, I think always there is something like that, something the good composers and arrangers know and I don't about the rhythm theory. They seem to know how to put a lot of percussions, a lot of notes without "braking" the song or simply make the listener think "ops! that sound out of place".

I can be hours looping the same beat once and once just testing. "Hi-hat here, no, here, no, wait, maybe too loud, or maybe not..." and I spend more time testing than making music. And I get totally tired and stop it.

I had an idea of making a slow and calm version of the King of Fighters 94 (or 96) Psycho Soldiers team theme with piano and soft drums but I'm stucked for months in the first four beats and it sounds like crap to me. I tryed thinking about the relationship between the melody and the rhythm, but there is something I don't get. I would like to understand how to put a rhythm to a song like I know how to put chords to it. For example, in that theme I said, I have spent a lot of time thinking in wich melody note I can put a full chord, a bass note, a bassdrum, a hi-hat... but I can't understand it. I feel like I'm missing something very important. The result is that I ended frustrated and tired and I have not worked on it for months. I want to upoload it but I don't have a Soundcloud account and for the moment I don't want to make one just for that 4 beats. Are there another way?

Hours and hours for that 4 beats and still I feel it doesn't sound good. I tryed adding a closed and open triangle as percussion but I feel it doesn't harmonize with the rest. I wonder why. I test and test but I always have the feeling that is wrong.

This problem, which I've been dragging for years, quit me from music composing. Even I don't make arrange versions of game music, like the idea I said above, because the same thing. I'm not exaggerating when I say that turned music making into a hell to me and I stopped. This quit me even from listening music, because that turned into and obsession. I can't listen to music without focussing on rhythm, listen to all that stuff sounding good at the same time and asking myself "what in the hell these dudes know that I don't!?".

There must be some "rules" in rhythm like there are about harmony and melody. I guess I'm about rhythm like if someone who doesn't know about music theory put a Bb in a an Am chord and asks himself why it sounds so out of place.

I use a Cubase with Halion and GM Drumset VSTs. I don't think it's a bad software. I think it's my fault but I don't know what.

How can I learn about that? I mean, the relationship about the melody and the rhythm, rhythm and percussion theory and rules that don't "brake" the song or disturb... Even the most basic thing would be useful, but it's something nobody seems to teach or talk about. For example, the only thing I know is that the bass drum sounds good if it sounds at the same time of certain bass notes. There must be such rules about the other parts of the drum, the percussion, the full chords, the arpeggios...

I don't know If I explained it well. English is not my native language.

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

I kind of suffer from a similar issue. I am so proficient with playing by ear, melody and such it eclipses the rhythm aspect of making music. I play classical piano where rhythms are sometimes not apparent and subject to the melodies and progressions.

This is what I suggest. And it's what I want to do.

Learn the drums. I plan on taking a class where I can get this skill down organically on a real set of drums.

Focus on making percussive pieces WITHOUT what we normally call melody- synths, keyboards and strings...and focus on kicks, hi hats, bass for the musicality.

Practice rhythms of popular or easy to read songs.

Practice, practice, practice.

I think once I learn this skill I will be unstopable as the other part is good- composition , melody, the ability to come up with creative chord progressions.

I hope this helps!

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Just wanted to add rhythm is a timing thing and to be honest I think it is something you have or don't. I know some people who just have a natural sense of it. I think it can be learned but it takes practice and I think, for me, I need to learn the drums to get a true feeling of the consistency and timing.

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

One thing I have started doing when sitting down to write a new piece is to ask myself am I going to have busy, complex percussion or busy, complex melody and harmony? I have gone back to much of the music I enjoy and realized much of it seems to have been composed with this question in mind.

I realize it is possible to do both, but I'm not there yet, so unless it is a practice session I kind of make that decision upfront. It has helped me a lot in regards to making tunes that make sense rhythmically.

I also think after one has worked on a song for too long you are kind of hearing and analyzing everything at once and nothing about it sounds good or interesting anymore. Sometimes I think we hear problems that aren't there after tweaking things for hours.

Finally, try playing things in live. Even if you do it one drum sound at a time. Spend some time getting your quantize settings at the right sensitivity for yourself.

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Old 11-01-2015, 09:30 PM   #5
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

I tryed that a lot, believe me. I made drum and percussion patterns focussing in one beat only until it sounds acceptable. The problem come when I try to add rhythm (and I don't mean only drums, also chords, bass, melodic parts...) to a given melody, like the one from game music I said I'm trying; then, even if I have a drum that sounds decent it doesn't harmonize with the rest.

I think if you have the feeling you have a lot done, but like I said about chords, there must be some theory. No matter how much imagination you have composing music if you don't know basic chords and their relationship with the melody. Knowing that save you a lot of effort and suffering. I know what I'm talking about because at the beginning I composed music even don't knowing the chords, just by ear, and when I learned them I can compose much faster and easily.

There must be similar things about the relationship between melody notes and the rhythm in the background. Maybe the ones with feeling "knows" it intuitively, but that's another thing. For example, in the part I'm trying after hours of testing I had a simple but nice drum, but when I said "OK, let's add a triangle" I found very hard to make a pattern that fit with the drum and the rest.

What I'm asking is basically how to harmonize a given melody but not with chords, but with rhythm.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Learn to make breakcore completely with samples.

Also learn to play drums.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

By default harmony and chords make more sense to fit in with percussion. Chords and harmony have more of a percussive element and they should technically fit with your bass and percussive line. Melody is something you develop to go over top of those layers.

If you are having a hard time with rhythm starting with melody is not going to help as melody sometimes is less rhythmically apparent or obvious.

Chords CAN have a melodic element to the listener. We tend to make patterns as we listen and will naturally hear the top line of the chords.

But to answer this...

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What I'm asking is basically how to harmonize a given melody but not with chords, but with rhythm.
Just get a sampled rhythm loop and play your melody with that...then build your track with the loop as your guide for timing and then once you get something you like you can delete the loop.

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By the way, excellent thread, I am interested to see what others say too.

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

I mean the opposite, arranging a given melody with all the rest. It's something I'm making as a challenge but hat ended frustrating me. I thought that just to understand the relationship because the melody and the rest.

I know generally percussion and bassline, chords... go very close, but there must be a relationship with the melody too. If not, any rhythm or any bassline would work on any melody. And that's the theory I would like to understand.

I took the song and copyed the melody and chords by ear, then I thought "Ok, I have the melody and chords, how can I make it with an acoustic feeling and calm drums in slow tempo?". And I'm stucked even it sounds very easy and simple. It's ok at the beggining, when I only add a few things, but when I start adding more stuff it reach a point that sounds bad to me. And to make things more simple and less possibilities I decided not using sixteenths, that means I have only eight places to put the notes in each beat. Even that, I got stucked and frustrated so I thought there must be something I'm missing about theory, because it doesn't seems to be as simple as trial and error.

PS: I'm not talking only about drums, but the whole rhythm. Learning drums would help to understand the drums, but I don't think all people who make music with computer have learned drums. I'm asking about theory, a theory that no one seems to care or talk about in music schools but very important, so that I quit music making for it.

Any way to uploading the samples appart of Soundcloud? They are 10 seconds samples only. I don't feel like making a Soundcloud account just for that. With sound it would be easier to understand.

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Oh okay.

What I would do is once you have the rest created...just jam with your music running in a loop. Play different melodies and ideas.

I would start off with playing notes of your melody that fit with the main chord progression, but once you have a simple melody you can change it to be a bit more subtle and less obvious.

Do you have a sample that I can listen to?

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Ok, I made a Soundcloud account and I'll post the samples.

My idea was making an arrange version of this song, but at slow tempo and soft. As I said, I decided not to use sixteenth notes just to make it simple.

But when I was going to post the Youtube link to the song and the links to my samples it said I have not the number of posts necessary to put links .

I must reach 10 posts to put links.
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Just visit a few other threads and participate in some conversation a little.

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post the links with spaces in them, then PM me, I'll edit the post so they work.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Learning the drums seems like an excellent idea, albeit a lengthy proposal.

I personally have always had an affinity towards the percussive elements in music. So for 20 years I've kind of absorbed it across multiple genres. Now, programming them is a very, very different thing.

I listened quite a bit to drummers, classic drum loops, and read what I could find. #Hitit is a great book that goes into some details.

What I have started to do is using Maschine to mix the classic programmed drum pattern approach with overdubbing by hand, also using the note repeat function. It allows me to experiment on the fly and feel out how different percussive patterns work together.

Also, you can get your hands on some MIDI loops of classic breakbeats. They are awesome for learning.

Much of electronic music actually works just fine with very simple drums, with some other percussive elements layered in for interest. That's not that difficult.

And if your melody and harmony carry the song, well, then that's what sustains the interest. Lots of vocal trance works that way.

Classic Hip Hop and some Rap have interesting organic patterns. A lot of industrial has more intricate patterns.

In any case, there is no alternative to doing it over and over until you get a hang of it.

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No problem. I'll wait until I can post links.

I have been testing with the rhythms and I found drum is not as important as I thought. I was thinking that song's rhythm feeling depends on where you put the basic drum elements, specially hi-hats and that "high" percussion stuff, but I found even without that, only with a basic pattern of bass drum and snare you can guide the rhythm with other things, even not percussive and the whole rhythm changes even if the bass drum and the snare keep the same.

Also, I found that trying to play the percussive instruments with the keyboard until you find a pattern that match, is easier. I usually had the habit of making it by putting the notes in the piano roll one by one and looking if they match with certain notes of the bass, melody or another instruments.

Anyway I have still a hard time making the whole thing sound rhythmyc and with sense. I think that I'm missing something important about which parts of the percussion fits with certain parts of the song and which not, something related to strong and weak notes that I don't get. I mean, sometimes I have the feeling that I'm adding a lot of notes in the wrong place and leaving empty others that "need" something, but I don't know exactly what.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Make it easy and use the chord that your bass is in. Use the top note of the bass chords for your melody.

To be honest what you describe seems odd as when I play I just play what sounds good. Do you have a midi controller or are you just clicking notes in. I can't compose that way...just painting notes in. That may affect your dynamic as well.

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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

For years I didn't have a keyboard so I got used to compose by adding notes to the piano roll and adjusting also the dynamics one by one. I almost can play nothing but simple chords and arpeggios in the white keys, and usually out of time. I need quantizing a lot.

For the bass, drums, percussions and so on, I used to make them with the piano roll note by note until today, that I was testing some things playing the notes with the keyboard. But even it is easier, I'm still feeling as I'm missing something important about the rhythm.

I realized that usually if you adjust the percussion notes to the melody it sounds horrible. For example, matching hi-hats with every melody note. So I find a mistery how rhythm works to fit with the melody. I'm talking about making a rhythm from a melody and not the opposite, which I find by far easier. If I have a rhythm I can play a melody on it that makes sense, but the opposite is another history. I'm doing it to understanding better how music works.

I guess the guys that make my favourite songs knows something to accompany the melodies cool, because they made lots of arranged versions of the same theme and all different, but fitting. So I think there must be some logic in that. Something like "this works, this sound cool, this doesn't". I don't know if I'm explaining it well.

I can't analyze the percussive part of the songs like I did with the melodic ones, because it sounds all together to me and I can't tell how many parts are sounding and separate them to understand them. I don't have a good ear for percussion, even if I try to make a percussive rhythm similar to a pattern I have in my mind I can't, it ends sounding different. Something that doesn't happen to me with melodies.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

I think it sounds like you may just be overthinking, trying too hard.

I think the best thing apart from taking drum lessons would really be to just spend, an hour a day or something just jamming, practicing.
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Re: Frustrated because the rhythm, that quit me from making music, any advices?

Since you already know music theory, get some music books on acoustic drum notation and look at the rhythms. Hopefully some of those books will come with a CD to listen to. And then you can program in some similar rhythms in your DAW.

Also, to study some tunes, find out what BPM the tune is, set your DAW to that exact BPM and load in the tune. See where the beats land in terms of the grid and it will help you to understand the percussion better.

Also, you should get some other percussion sounds besides just your GM drumsets. General MIDI tends to be extremely limited. Some of your rhythms might already be pretty good but just with a poor drumkit.

Good luck and don't give up. Give yourself a chance to learn.

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Personally I think you need practice just playing/jamming. It sounds like what you lack is the organic sound of things. I can't help you with clicking notes in...there's nothing organic with that.

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