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Old 05-06-2015, 11:32 PM   #1
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This new Redux VST thing...

Are you playing with it? Is it good for you? I put it in my DAW a few times.

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Old 06-06-2015, 06:28 PM   #2
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

Ya, ya, I like it. Didn't think I would like it much, but... seems like nice stuff.
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

Seems pretty in depth.. Almost like a slimmed down, tweaked version of Renoise as a vst.

I'm keeping my eye on bc I could never get me brain around Renoise rewired into Live
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

Does someone feel like filling in an idiot? Is this a tracker VST or something? Sounds pretty cool, will google.
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Does someone feel like filling in an idiot? Is this a tracker VST or something? Sounds pretty cool, will google.
Yeah it's basically like a mini version of renoise as a vst
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

That looks really interesting..even to someone like me, who usually runs a mile whenever he hears the word "tracker". I don't have anything against them or those who use em..it's just I could never get my head around using them I guess.

But I really like the way they seem to have successfully merged both types of models together..the usual synth-type and the tracker, into the one program/instrument/vst..

Yeah..I think I might get this myself..and I had to look again at the price..thought it was going to cost a LOT more than it does..which is also a cool thing going in its favor. Given Renoise's track record, I think this is one everyone should have in their toolbox.

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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

So this is basically Renoise for people who can't into ReWire or want to save some cpu ressources etc.?

I don't see the difference between this and Renoise. Except that Redux can't be standalone as Renoise and probably has some missing capabilities.
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

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So this is basically Renoise for people who can't into ReWire or want to save some cpu ressources etc.?

I don't see the difference between this and Renoise. Except that Redux can't be standalone as Renoise and probably has some missing capabilities.
Yeah..you could be right, but I guess we need somebody whose used to Renoise and who has used this to comment on that.

Like I said already, I'm not a Renoise user, so I can't really offer anything in regards to its feature set..but it's certainly handy given you can play it like a standard synth..with the added capability of dragging and dropping sound files into it to work on within your DAW.

I don't know if you could do that in the standalone Renoise, but being able to do the things this offers in just one instance in your DAW makes this pretty cool thing to have. It kind of looks to me like a half-way thing between a tracker and the no defunct Camel Audio's "Alchemy" , in the way it lets you play with sounds in real time.

Maybe I took it up completely wrong, but if this is the case, then it's a really useful program to have, even if you already use Renoise..and even if you don't.

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Old 08-06-2015, 06:32 PM   #10
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

I don't get what the argument is here...the Renoise website specifically states that it is just the sampler instrument with some extras from Renoise. : )

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I don't get what the argument is here...the Renoise website specifically states that it is just the sampler instrument with some extras from Renoise. : )
Is that a good or a bad thing? I mean, would somebody who already has Renoise be bothered buying this..don't they already have everything it offers..or am I missing something..aside from the whole vst thing?

Personally I think I might get it..but I could understand Renoise users thinking they might give it a miss.

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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

Just found this posted over on the KVR forum..

"Redux will be an instrument plugin (VST on Windows, OSX and Linux - Audio Unit on OSX - all in 32 and 64 bit flavors), which brings the sample-mangling and pattern hacking capabilities of Renoise to any DAW which is capable of hosting VST or AU plugins. Redux is NOT intended to be Renoise as a plugin – we have ReWire for that – but it has been developed based on Renoises's new sampler and phrases to be an instrument. Redux has its own identity, and is more like Renoise's little brother.

This means that, without resorting to tricks like Rewire, the sample-mangling capabilities of Renoise will soon be available to any DAW, too. We hope this is useful for everyone to try out the Renoise tracking workflow without leaving your favorite DAW, or for Renoise users to bring your Renoise way of composing into other DAWs. Any instruments created in Renoise will be fully compatible with Redux, and vice versa."


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Just found this posted over on the KVR forum..

"Redux will be an instrument plugin (VST on Windows, OSX and Linux - Audio Unit on OSX - all in 32 and 64 bit flavors), which brings the sample-mangling and pattern hacking capabilities of Renoise to any DAW which is capable of hosting VST or AU plugins. Redux is NOT intended to be Renoise as a plugin we have ReWire for that but it has been developed based on Renoises's new sampler and phrases to be an instrument. Redux has its own identity, and is more like Renoise's little brother.

This means that, without resorting to tricks like Rewire, the sample-mangling capabilities of Renoise will soon be available to any DAW, too. We hope this is useful for everyone to try out the Renoise tracking workflow without leaving your favorite DAW, or for Renoise users to bring your Renoise way of composing into other DAWs. Any instruments created in Renoise will be fully compatible with Redux, and vice versa."

That is exactly what I was referring to. And yes, I see no reason a Renoise user would buy this. That is unless they wanted to switch to another DAW and only have these abilities. I'm sure this is much less CPU intensive than ReWire.

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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

I use renoise but not all the time. It's cool being able to use all my kits and other stuff in any DAW. Redux is currently a little more advanced than the sampler in Renoise until they update it.

It's really just the sampler, though, with tracker control of the samples. It's not really a plug-in tracker. You can't sequence other VSTs with it. But you can use the tracker style 'phrases' to program your beats, arps, melodies whatever for your samples plus do all the Sxx stretching, retrigs, scrubs all that shit. Pretty cool. Makes an awesome drum machine plug in for me, anyway. It uses more cpu than it seems it should, though. Damnit... i mean, wtf? Still cool with it, though.
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

If it has midi out then I'm game... using a tracker vst to control VSTs and VSTi would be da'bomb... and I never say "da'bomb" so you know I'm excited
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Old 09-06-2015, 06:26 PM   #16
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If it has midi out then I'm game... using a tracker vst to control VSTs and VSTi would be da'bomb... and I never say "da'bomb" so you know I'm excited
Well, I'm pretty certain it does not do that. Could have missed somethin', I hope so, but I don't think so...

It's not reVisit. Maybe you want to check that one out, if ya haven't. (what's with all these 're' this and 're' thats...)
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Well, I'm pretty certain it does not do that. Could have missed somethin', I hope so, but I don't think so...

It's not reVisit. Maybe you want to check that one out, if ya haven't. (what's with all these 're' this and 're' thats...)

What I mean... is, many VSTs that dont fully come out and say it have midi out abilities so that you can use its sequencer and so on.. So if this has MIDI out that you can route to other MIDI channels via your host application then that would be awesome as its the sequencer (or tracker actually) from Renoise that makes all the difference. Sample players are a dime a dozen
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Re: This new Redux VST thing...

As a Renoise user/fanboy myself, I will admit, midi routing (from VSTs into Renoise and vica versa) is a bit of a headache for me sometimes.

Currently I build my drum tracks in Maschine stand alone, and then when I'm ready to import them into Renoise, it's easy enough to just drag the midi data over and drag the audio over into separate tracks. But if I'm already working on a project, then I have to create a new blank project in a second instance of Renoise, copy everything over from Maschine into that instance, and then copy everything from that instance over to my other project I already had going. Which is... kinda dumb. It's been years and they still haven't fixed this, though, maybe that's next on the list in 3.1 or something later this year?

Not exactly holding my breath for it though. Also, would be cool if anyone who owns Redux could post an update in this thread mentioning if they had any problems getting midi note data into/out of the Redux sequencer from either another VST or a separate program like Maschine. That's something I've been curious about but nobody on the official forum has talked about it yet.

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