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Old 05-16-2014, 03:17 PM   #1
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[EDM] Chords?

Hey guys, i need an opinion, i have noticed my tracks are lacking that 'background' sound whilst the drop is going.. i find it awkward listening to the drop and its just dead quiet in the back ground..

How would you go about making chords for a drop? or adding more depth to it?!

If that makes sense?

For example if you listen to martin garrix - animals, when it kicks in the back ground is dead quiet.
though if you listen to reload - sebastian ingrosso, when it kicks in it sounds more deep!

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Old 05-16-2014, 04:32 PM   #2
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

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Hey guys, i need an opinion, i have noticed my tracks are lacking that 'background' sound whilst the drop is going.. i find it awkward listening to the drop and its just dead quiet in the back ground..

How would you go about making chords for a drop? or adding more depth to it?!

If that makes sense?

For example if you listen to martin garrix - animals, when it kicks in the back ground is dead quiet.
though if you listen to reload - sebastian ingrosso, when it kicks in it sounds more deep!

Thank you
I listened to the sebastian ingrosso track up until the first drop and wow what a horribly cheesy track (just not my taste so don't take this personally). But anyway, to me it just sounds like loads of sidechained white noise in the background... He uses the white noise for the build up and then just sustains it but sidechains it to some elements in the track, probably the kick but I only listened to it once so I'll let you figure out the details.

Just take some white noise (sample or synth), stick a low pass filter on it with the cutoff slowly rising until the drop and sidechain the whole thing to the kick using a compressor...

Other than the main synthy saw lead sound (someone correct me if I'm wrong) I don't really hear any chords... Obviously noone will be able to tell you which chords to use exactly because it depends on your track but things like major 7th chords sound very happy/euphoric so something like that might work in whichever key you are working in. I'm not very good at music theory though so you'll have to play around a bit yourself...

If anyone disagrees with me here feel free to correct me

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Okay man, thank you!
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

in afrojack's "jack that body" and etc. drops sound very fat and massiv/ does anyone now hot wo make that effect. only thing i hear is sidechained synth in the background, but i think thats not all? what do you think?
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Old 10-16-2014, 12:49 PM   #5
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

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Hey guys, i need an opinion, i have noticed my tracks are lacking that 'background' sound whilst the drop is going.. i find it awkward listening to the drop and its just dead quiet in the back ground..

How would you go about making chords for a drop? or adding more depth to it?!

If that makes sense?
professurreal answered the question based on the songs you picked, but if you really want to know how to build chords, you should really look up chord and scale construction. Making chords for a drop is really no different from making chords for any other purpose.

A IV-V7-I progression could just as easily be used for the drop as it could a buildup. Context, instrumentation and sound design is the key deciding factor here.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:47 PM   #6
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

A great resource for this sort of thing is to look up famous tracks and see their chord progressions:

I'm not allowed to post links yet, but google "chordify" and you'll find an excellent repository of chord progressions for well known modern tracks
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Old 04-13-2015, 11:30 PM   #7
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

Damn people, this isn't rocket science. Choose a pad preset, hit some white keys spaced roughly as your hand is. There. Chord.

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Old 06-01-2015, 04:54 AM   #8
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

There are many things you can do to add a nice background to your music. Adding reverb, layering synths, adding subtle white noise (very common), adding some field recordings (personal favorite, although not appropriate for all musical styles)



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Re: [EDM] Chords?

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in afrojack's "jack that body" and etc. drops sound very fat and massiv/ does anyone now hot wo make that effect. only thing i hear is sidechained synth in the background, but i think thats not all? what do you think?
That is just cause it's super compressed so it actually fills everything, it's just pretty easy, put some reverb on a synth (low pass and high pass the reverb), and have the whole drop peaking on -6db, and when you master it it will sound great
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Old 06-26-2015, 02:42 PM   #10
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

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Hey guys, i need an opinion, i have noticed my tracks are lacking that 'background' sound whilst the drop is going.. i find it awkward listening to the drop and its just dead quiet in the back ground..

How would you go about making chords for a drop? or adding more depth to it?!

If that makes sense?

For example if you listen to martin garrix - animals, when it kicks in the back ground is dead quiet.
though if you listen to reload - sebastian ingrosso, when it kicks in it sounds more deep!

Thank you
Both tracks are very busy before the drop. so taking out elements like in animals makes the "hollow" effect work well, like all other big room drops.
Now if you want a drop more "Full" of content. remember that the buildup can't be louder than the drop, and try not having lots of elements in the low end of the spectrum like basses, Sub basses, Un-eq'ed FX, loud white noise, etc. Chords will not make a drop sound "bigger" if that's what you want. It all comes with the whole composition BEFORE it. the drop is the climax of your track, everything else is a slave to it. do good transitions between sections, choose your sounds carefully, eq them well. now about making Chords i'd suggest you learning Scales first. is all there man, once you learn what keys can play with each other without sounding strange, you'll pull out chords very easy. but a trick i used when i didn't knew theory was to give 3-4 keys of space between each note and having the top note playing one octave lower aswell to make a "bass" to the chord. Play around with it and you'll get how chords work. but if you music lacks "depth", chords ain't the only thing that will help.

btw the ingrosso track has some Sidechained pads and synth playing chords, with a legato lead probably layered. layering things do a good job. just remember to mix everything as one element. Also, sidechain your stuff to the kicks. that works too. hope this help. if not well i tried.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:25 PM   #11
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

Check out this tutorial . Focuses on having your synth made up of three main parts.... low freq. Mid freq. And high freq... also try using white noise in background. Not sure if u have or not.... hope this helps.... [Only registered and activated users can see links. Click here to register]


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Re: [EDM] Chords?

What kind of track are you producing?

what I like to do is have something with a alot of reveb that I was using earlier in the track but bring a low pass filter down on it to about idk 6,ooo mark idk its up to you how far you can bring it down but it really gives the illusion of shoving something to the back while a new unfiltered synth sits on top (the one you want all the focus on)

Hope that helps

Also having white noise just off in the back round sidechained gives a nice effect (no filter sweeps) and then cutting it out the second time your drop comes around really makes it feel open
(mostly used for dance tracks)

If it is a dub step track then the a triad chord on beats 2 and 4 (usually with the root note I for a minor key or the VI of a major key helps) and using delay or reverb to fill out the space

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Old 12-12-2015, 02:57 AM   #13
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

Putting it during a moment of tension (V chord or vii diminished)
in a progression might work b/c people would be expecting a return to tonic
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Re: [EDM] Chords?

One thing that can help for overdubbing of chords to a bass or for overdubbing of a bass to chords:

use your DAW's markers/regions to label what the notes are so you can watch out for them while you overdub.
it's basically a cue list for your mind. This is helpful if what you've composed is too complex to memorize.

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Re: [EDM] Chords?

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Putting it during a moment of tension (V chord or vii diminished)
in a progression might work b/c people would be expecting a return to tonic
Yeah or trick them so instead of the tonic go back to iv after V, or do a vi° - II7 to i

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Re: [EDM] Chords?

Something I have been doing is the White noise fx band pass down for the first half of the Drop/ 15secs but then on the 2nd half 8 bars/ 15 seconds of the drop I like to add a riser like a simple 1/8 note plucky reverb on a pitch bend going up is an easy way to transition back to anther part of the sung I think, and of coarse you can come up with your own variations

also setting like a "floor" idk what else to call it but lets say using an airy pad held one the root note or the iv note / relative minor in the back round pumping hard at a low level can really help set the mood of the drop

I just realized I already posted in here giving a totally different answer

It depends what mood I am in I guess

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